On 08/29/2018 09:43 PM, Dave Chinner wrote: > On Wed, Aug 29, 2018 at 01:11:08PM -0400, Waiman Long wrote: >> On 08/28/2018 08:11 PM, Dave Chinner wrote: >>> On Tue, Aug 28, 2018 at 01:19:39PM -0400, Waiman Long wrote: >>>> The current dentry number tracking code doesn't distinguish between >>>> positive & negative dentries. It just reports the total number of >>>> dentries in the LRU lists. >>>> >>>> As excessive number of negative dentries can have an impact on system >>>> performance, it will be wise to track the number of positive and >>>> negative dentries separately. >>>> >>>> This patch adds tracking for the total number of negative dentries in >>>> the system LRU lists and reports it in the /proc/sys/fs/dentry-state >>>> file. The number, however, does not include negative dentries that are >>>> in flight but not in the LRU yet. >>>> >>>> The number of positive dentries in the LRU lists can be roughly found >>>> by subtracting the number of negative dentries from the total. >>>> >>>> Signed-off-by: Waiman Long <longman@xxxxxxxxxx> >>>> --- >>>> Documentation/sysctl/fs.txt | 19 +++++++++++++------ >>>> fs/dcache.c | 45 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ >>>> include/linux/dcache.h | 7 ++++--- >>>> 3 files changed, 62 insertions(+), 9 deletions(-) >>>> >>>> diff --git a/Documentation/sysctl/fs.txt b/Documentation/sysctl/fs.txt >>>> index 819caf8..118bb93 100644 >>>> --- a/Documentation/sysctl/fs.txt >>>> +++ b/Documentation/sysctl/fs.txt >>>> @@ -63,19 +63,26 @@ struct { >>>> int nr_unused; >>>> int age_limit; /* age in seconds */ >>>> int want_pages; /* pages requested by system */ >>>> - int dummy[2]; >>>> + int nr_negative; /* # of unused negative dentries */ >>>> + int dummy; >>>> } dentry_stat = {0, 0, 45, 0,}; >>> That's not a backwards compatible ABI change. Those dummy fields >>> used to represent some metric we no longer calculate, and there are >>> probably still monitoring apps out there that think they still have >>> the old meaning. i.e. they are still visible to userspace: >>> >>> $ cat /proc/sys/fs/dentry-state >>> 83090 67661 45 0 0 0 >>> $ >>> >>> IOWs, you can add new fields for new metrics to the end of the >>> structure, but you can't re-use existing fields even if they >>> aren't calculated anymore. >>> >>> [....] >> I looked up the git history and the state of the dentry_stat structure >> hadn't changed since it was first put into git in 2.6.12-rc2 on Apr 16, >> 2005. That was over 13 years ago. Even adding an extra argument can have >> the potential of breaking old applications depending on how the parsing >> code was written. > I'm pretty we've had this discussion many times before w.r.t. > /proc/self/mount* and other multi-field proc files. > > IIRC, The answer has always been that it's OK to extend lines with > new fields as existing apps /should/ ignore them, but it's not OK to > remove or redefine existing fields in the line because existing apps > /will/ misinterpret what that field means. > >> Given that systems that are still using some very old tools are not >> likely to upgrade to the latest kernel anyway. I don't see that as a big >> problem. > I don't think that matters when it comes to changing what > information we expose in proc files. > > Cheers, > > Dave. I am not against appending the new count to the end. I just want to make sure that it is the right thing to do. Cheers, Longman