Re: [PATCH 00/31 v2] PTI support for x86_32

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On Wed, Feb 14, 2018 at 11:43:42AM +0100, Pavel Machek wrote:
> We have just found out that majority of 64-bit machines are broken in
> rather fundamental ways (Spectre) and Intel does not even look
> interested in fixing that (because it would make them look bad on
> benchmarks).
> 
> Even when the Spectre bug is mitigated... this looks like can of worms
> that can not be closed.
> 
> OTOH -- we do know that there are non-broken machines out there,
> unfortunately they are mostly 32-bit :-). Removing support for
> majority of working machines may not be good idea...
> 
> [And I really hope future CPUs get at least option to treat cache miss
> as a side-effect -- thus disalowed during speculation -- and probably
> option to turn off speculation altogether. AFAICT, it should "only"
> result in 50% slowdown -- or that was result in some riscv
> presentation.]

Or, future CPU designs introduce shadow caches and shadow
TLBs which only speculation loads and sees and which
become real only if and whend the resultant speculative
calculations become real.

Joe
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