Re: [LSF/MM TOPIC] HMM status upstream user what's next, mmu_notifier

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On Tue 16-01-18 21:05:02, Jerome Glisse wrote:
> On Wed, Jan 17, 2018 at 09:19:56AM +0800, Liubo(OS Lab) wrote:
> > On 2018/1/17 5:30, Jerome Glisse wrote:
> > > I want to talk about status of HMM and respective upstream user for
> > > it and also talk about what's next in term of features/improvement
> > > plan (generic page write protection, mmu_notifier, ...). Most likely
> > 
> > I don't think we should consider to push more code to upstream for a nobody-use feature.
> > 
> > AFAIR, Michal also mentioned that HMM need a real user/driver before upstream.
> > But I haven't seen a workable user/driver version.
> > 
> > Looks like HMM is a custom framework for Nvidia, and Nvidia would not like to open source its driver.
> > Even if nvidia really use HMM and open sourced its driver, it's probably the only user.
> > But the HMM framework touched too much core mm code.
> 
> So it is not NVidia only, they are other GPU from different company that
> intend to use HMM, i can't comment any further on timeline.
> 
> Regarding NVidia hardware i intend to have the patchset to use HMM inside
> nouveau ready before summit and post as RFC. Per drm sub-system guideline
> we can not upstream it until we also have a functional userspace stack and
> we are also working on that.

I would really appreciate to at least see some form of RFC work. It
would be a pity to have a HMM discussion anniversary without an actual
user in sight.
-- 
Michal Hocko
SUSE Labs

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