On 21/11/17 07:59, Liuwenliang (Abbott Liu) wrote: > On Nov 17, 2017 21:49 Marc Zyngier [mailto:marc.zyngier@xxxxxxx] wrote: >> On Sat, 18 Nov 2017 10:40:08 +0000 >> "Liuwenliang (Abbott Liu)" <liuwenliang@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > >>> On Nov 17, 2017 15:36 Christoffer Dall [mailto:cdall@xxxxxxxxxx] wrote: >>>> If your processor does support LPAE (like a Cortex-A15 for example), >>>> then you have both the 32-bit accessors (MRC and MCR) and the 64-bit >>>> accessors (MRRC, MCRR), and using the 32-bit accessor will simply access >>>> the lower 32-bits of the 64-bit register. >>>> >>>> Hope this helps, >>>> -Christoffer >>> >>> If you know the higher 32-bits of the 64-bits cp15's register is not useful for your system, >>> then you can use the 32-bit accessor to get or set the 64-bit cp15's register. >>> But if the higher 32-bits of the 64-bits cp15's register is useful for your system, >>> then you can't use the 32-bit accessor to get or set the 64-bit cp15's register. >>> >>> TTBR0/TTBR1/PAR's higher 32-bits is useful for CPU supporting LPAE. >>> The following description which comes from ARM(r) Architecture Reference >>> Manual ARMv7-A and ARMv7-R edition tell us the reason: >>> >>> 64-bit TTBR0 and TTBR1 format: >>> ... >>> BADDR, bits[39:x] : >>> Translation table base address, bits[39:x]. Defining the translation table base address width on >>> page B4-1698 describes how x is defined. >>> The value of x determines the required alignment of the translation table, which must be aligned to >>> 2x bytes. >>> >>> Abbott Liu: Because BADDR on CPU supporting LPAE may be bigger than max value of 32-bit, so bits[39:32] may >>> be valid value which is useful for the system. >>> >>> 64-bit PAR format >>> ... >>> PA[39:12] >>> Physical Address. The physical address corresponding to the supplied virtual address. This field >>> returns address bits[39:12]. >>> >>> Abbott Liu: Because Physical Address on CPU supporting LPAE may be bigger than max value of 32-bit, >>> so bits[39:32] may be valid value which is useful for the system. >>> >>> Conclusion: Don't use 32-bit accessor to get or set TTBR0/TTBR1/PAR on CPU supporting LPAE, >>> if you do that, your system may run error. > >> That's not really true. You can run an non-LPAE kernel that uses the >> 32bit accessors an a Cortex-A15 that supports LPAE. You're just limited >> to 4GB of physical space. And you're pretty much guaranteed to have >> some memory below 4GB (one way or another), or you'd have a slight >> problem setting up your page tables. > >> M. >> -- >> Without deviation from the norm, progress is not possible. > > Thanks for your review. > Please don't ask people to limit to 4GB of physical space on CPU > supporting LPAE, please don't ask people to guaranteed to have some > memory below 4GB on CPU supporting LPAE. Please tell me how you enable LPAE if you don't. I've truly curious. Because otherwise, you should really take a step back and seriously reconsider what you're writing. Hint: where do you think the page tables required to enable LPAE will be? How do you even *boot*? > Why people select CPU supporting LPAE(just like cortex A15)? > Because some of people think 4GB physical space is not enough for their > system, maybe they want to use 8GB/16GB DDR space. > Then you tell them that they must guaranteed to have some memory below 4GB, > just only because you think the code as follow: > +#define TTBR0 __ACCESS_CP15(c2, 0, c0, 0) > +#define TTBR1 __ACCESS_CP15(c2, 0, c0, 1) > +#define PAR __ACCESS_CP15(c7, 0, c4, 0) > > is better than the code like this: > > +#ifdef CONFIG_ARM_LPAE > +#define TTBR0 __ACCESS_CP15_64(0, c2) > +#define TTBR1 __ACCESS_CP15_64(1, c2) > +#define PAR __ACCESS_CP15_64(0, c7) > +#else > +#define TTBR0 __ACCESS_CP15(c2, 0, c0, 0) > +#define TTBR1 __ACCESS_CP15(c2, 0, c0, 1) > +#define PAR __ACCESS_CP15(c7, 0, c4, 0) > +#endif > > > So,I think the following code: > +#ifdef CONFIG_ARM_LPAE > +#define TTBR0 __ACCESS_CP15_64(0, c2) > +#define TTBR1 __ACCESS_CP15_64(1, c2) > +#define PAR __ACCESS_CP15_64(0, c7) > +#else > +#define TTBR0 __ACCESS_CP15(c2, 0, c0, 0) > +#define TTBR1 __ACCESS_CP15(c2, 0, c0, 1) > +#define PAR __ACCESS_CP15(c7, 0, c4, 0) > +#endif > > is better because it's not necessary to ask people to guaranteed to > have some memory below 4GB on CPU supporting LPAE. NAK. > If we want to ask people to guaranteed to have some memory below 4GB > on CPU supporting LPAE, there need to modify some other code. > I think it makes the simple problem more complex to modify some other code for this. At this stage, you've proven that you don't understand the problem at hand. M. -- Jazz is not dead. It just smells funny... -- To unsubscribe, send a message with 'unsubscribe linux-mm' in the body to majordomo@xxxxxxxxx. For more info on Linux MM, see: http://www.linux-mm.org/ . Don't email: <a href=mailto:"dont@xxxxxxxxx"> email@xxxxxxxxx </a>