"Huang, Ying" <ying.huang@xxxxxxxxx> writes:
> Minchan Kim <minchan@xxxxxxxxxx> writes:
>
>> On Fri, Apr 28, 2017 at 04:05:26PM +0800, Huang, Ying wrote:
>>> Minchan Kim <minchan@xxxxxxxxxx> writes:
>>>
>>> > On Fri, Apr 28, 2017 at 09:09:53AM +0800, Huang, Ying wrote:
>>> >> Minchan Kim <minchan@xxxxxxxxxx> writes:
>>> >>
>>> >> > On Wed, Apr 26, 2017 at 08:42:10PM +0800, Huang, Ying wrote:
>>> >> >> Minchan Kim <minchan@xxxxxxxxxx> writes:
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> > On Fri, Apr 21, 2017 at 08:29:30PM +0800, Huang, Ying wrote:
>>> >> >> >> "Huang, Ying" <ying.huang@xxxxxxxxx> writes:
>>> >> >> >>
>>> >> >> >> > Minchan Kim <minchan@xxxxxxxxxx> writes:
>>> >> >> >> >
>>> >> >> >> >> On Wed, Apr 19, 2017 at 04:14:43PM +0800, Huang, Ying wrote:
>>> >> >> >> >>> Minchan Kim <minchan@xxxxxxxxxx> writes:
>>> >> >> >> >>>
>>> >> >> >> >>> > Hi Huang,
>>> >> >> >> >>> >
>>> >> >> >> >>> > On Fri, Apr 07, 2017 at 02:49:01PM +0800, Huang, Ying wrote:
>>> >> >> >> >>> >> From: Huang Ying <ying.huang@xxxxxxxxx>
>>> >> >> >> >>> >>
>>> >> >> >> >>> >> void swapcache_free_entries(swp_entry_t *entries, int n)
>>> >> >> >> >>> >> {
>>> >> >> >> >>> >> struct swap_info_struct *p, *prev;
>>> >> >> >> >>> >> @@ -1075,6 +1083,10 @@ void swapcache_free_entries(swp_entry_t *entries, int n)
>>> >> >> >> >>> >>
>>> >> >> >> >>> >> prev = NULL;
>>> >> >> >> >>> >> p = NULL;
>>> >> >> >> >>> >> +
>>> >> >> >> >>> >> + /* Sort swap entries by swap device, so each lock is only taken once. */
>>> >> >> >> >>> >> + if (nr_swapfiles > 1)
>>> >> >> >> >>> >> + sort(entries, n, sizeof(entries[0]), swp_entry_cmp, NULL);
>>> >> >> >> >>> >
>>> >> >> >> >>> > Let's think on other cases.
>>> >> >> >> >>> >
>>> >> >> >> >>> > There are two swaps and they are configured by priority so a swap's usage
>>> >> >> >> >>> > would be zero unless other swap used up. In case of that, this sorting
>>> >> >> >> >>> > is pointless.
>>> >> >> >> >>> >
>>> >> >> >> >>> > As well, nr_swapfiles is never decreased so if we enable multiple
>>> >> >> >> >>> > swaps and then disable until a swap is remained, this sorting is
>>> >> >> >> >>> > pointelss, too.
>>> >> >> >> >>> >
>>> >> >> >> >>> > How about lazy sorting approach? IOW, if we found prev != p and,
>>> >> >> >> >>> > then we can sort it.
>>> >> >> >> >>>
>>> >> >> >> >>> Yes. That should be better. I just don't know whether the added
>>> >> >> >> >>> complexity is necessary, given the array is short and sort is fast.
>>> >> >> >> >>
>>> >> >> >> >> Huh?
>>> >> >> >> >>
>>> >> >> >> >> 1. swapon /dev/XXX1
>>> >> >> >> >> 2. swapon /dev/XXX2
>>> >> >> >> >> 3. swapoff /dev/XXX2
>>> >> >> >> >> 4. use only one swap
>>> >> >> >> >> 5. then, always pointless sort.
>>> >> >> >> >
>>> >> >> >> > Yes. In this situation we will do unnecessary sorting. What I don't
>>> >> >> >> > know is whether the unnecessary sorting will hurt performance in real
>>> >> >> >> > life. I can do some measurement.
>>> >> >> >>
>>> >> >> >> I tested the patch with 1 swap device and 1 process to eat memory
>>> >> >> >> (remove the "if (nr_swapfiles > 1)" for test). I think this is the
>>> >> >> >> worse case because there is no lock contention. The memory freeing time
>>> >> >> >> increased from 1.94s to 2.12s (increase ~9.2%). So there is some
>>> >> >> >> overhead for some cases. I change the algorithm to something like
>>> >> >> >> below,
>>> >> >> >>
>>> >> >> >> void swapcache_free_entries(swp_entry_t *entries, int n)
>>> >> >> >> {
>>> >> >> >> struct swap_info_struct *p, *prev;
>>> >> >> >> int i;
>>> >> >> >> + swp_entry_t entry;
>>> >> >> >> + unsigned int prev_swp_type;
>>> >> >> >>
>>> >> >> >> if (n <= 0)
>>> >> >> >> return;
>>> >> >> >>
>>> >> >> >> + prev_swp_type = swp_type(entries[0]);
>>> >> >> >> + for (i = n - 1; i > 0; i--) {
>>> >> >> >> + if (swp_type(entries[i]) != prev_swp_type)
>>> >> >> >> + break;
>>> >> >> >> + }
>>> >> >> >
>>> >> >> > That's really what I want to avoid. For many swap usecases,
>>> >> >> > it adds unnecessary overhead.
>>> >> >> >
>>> >> >> >> +
>>> >> >> >> + /* Sort swap entries by swap device, so each lock is only taken once. */
>>> >> >> >> + if (i)
>>> >> >> >> + sort(entries, n, sizeof(entries[0]), swp_entry_cmp, NULL);
>>> >> >> >> prev = NULL;
>>> >> >> >> p = NULL;
>>> >> >> >> for (i = 0; i < n; ++i) {
>>> >> >> >> - p = swap_info_get_cont(entries[i], prev);
>>> >> >> >> + entry = entries[i];
>>> >> >> >> + p = swap_info_get_cont(entry, prev);
>>> >> >> >> if (p)
>>> >> >> >> - swap_entry_free(p, entries[i]);
>>> >> >> >> + swap_entry_free(p, entry);
>>> >> >> >> prev = p;
>>> >> >> >> }
>>> >> >> >> if (p)
>>> >> >> >>
>>> >> >> >> With this patch, the memory freeing time increased from 1.94s to 1.97s.
>>> >> >> >> I think this is good enough. Do you think so?
>>> >> >> >
>>> >> >> > What I mean is as follows(I didn't test it at all):
>>> >> >> >
>>> >> >> > With this, sort entries if we found multiple entries in current
>>> >> >> > entries. It adds some condition checks for non-multiple swap
>>> >> >> > usecase but it would be more cheaper than the sorting.
>>> >> >> > And it adds a [un]lock overhead for multiple swap usecase but
>>> >> >> > it should be a compromise for single-swap usecase which is more
>>> >> >> > popular.
>>> >> >> >
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> How about the following solution? It can avoid [un]lock overhead and
>>> >> >> double lock issue for multiple swap user case and has good performance
>>> >> >> for one swap user case too.
>>> >> >
>>> >> > How worse with approach I suggested compared to as-is?
>>> >>
>>> >> The performance difference between your version and my version is small
>>> >> for my testing.
>>> >
>>> > If so, why should we add code to optimize further?
>>> >
>>> >>
>>> >> > Unless it's too bad, let's not add more complicated thing to just
>>> >> > enhance the minor usecase in such even *slow* path.
>>> >> > It adds code size/maintainance overead.
>>> >> > With your suggestion, it might enhance a bit with speicific benchmark
>>> >> > but not sure it's really worth for real practice.
>>> >>
>>> >> I don't think the code complexity has much difference between our latest
>>> >> versions. As for complexity, I think my original version which just
>>> >
>>> > What I suggested is to avoid pointless overhead for *major* usecase
>>> > and the code you are adding now is to optimize further for *minor*
>>> > usecase. And now I dobut the code you are adding is really worth
>>> > unless it makes a meaningful output.
>>> > If it doesn't, it adds just overhead(code size, maintainance, power and
>>> > performance). You might argue it's really *small* so it would be okay
>>> > but think about that you would be not only one in the community so
>>> > kernel bloats day by day with code to handle corner cases.
>>> >
>>> >> uses nr_swapfiles to avoid sort() for single swap device is simple and
>>> >> good enough for this task. Maybe we can just improve the correctness of
>>> >
>>> > But it hurts *major* usecase.
>>> >
>>> >> swap device counting as Tim suggested.
>>> >
>>> > I don't know what Tim suggested. Anyway, my point is that minor
>>> > usecase doesn't hurt major usecase and justify the benefit
>>> > if you want to put more. So I'm okay with either solution to
>>> > meet it.
>>>
>>> Tim suggested to add a mechanism to correctly track how many swap
>>> devices are in use in swapon/swapoff. So we only sort if the number of
>>> the swap device > 1. This will not cover multiple swap devices with
>>> different priorities, but will cover the major usecases. The code
>>> should be simpler.
>>
>> As you know, it doesn't solve multiple swaps by priority.
>
> I don't think this is *major* usecase.
>
>> Even, there are cases full with entries same swap device
>> although multiple swap devices are used.
>
> Why, if you have multiple swap device, every time you will allocate from
> different swap device. Although there are swap alloc slots cache, the
> possibility of full alignment is low.
>
> Even if there are cases all entries come from one swap device, the
> sorting is fast in fact because the array is short and the elements are
> sorted (same swap type) already. So it is not necessary to worry about
> that too much.
In fact, during the test, I found the overhead of sort() is comparable
with the performance difference of adding likely()/unlikely() to the
"if" in the function.
Best Regards,
Huang, Ying
> Best Regards,
> Huang, Ying
>
>> So, I think runtime sorting by judging need to be sored is still
>> better.
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