Re: [RFC PATCH] mm: CONFIG_NR_ZONES_EXTENDED

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On 02/02/2016 06:42 AM, Andrew Morton wrote:
On Wed, 27 Jan 2016 22:19:14 -0800 Dan Williams <dan.j.williams@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

ZONE_DEVICE (merged in 4.3) and ZONE_CMA (proposed) are examples of new
mm zones that are bumping up against the current maximum limit of 4
zones, i.e. 2 bits in page->flags.  When adding a zone this equation
still needs to be satisified:

     SECTIONS_WIDTH + ZONES_WIDTH + NODES_SHIFT + LAST_CPUPID_SHIFT
	  <= BITS_PER_LONG - NR_PAGEFLAGS

ZONE_DEVICE currently tries to satisfy this equation by requiring that
ZONE_DMA be disabled, but this is untenable given generic kernels want
to support ZONE_DEVICE and ZONE_DMA simultaneously.  ZONE_CMA would like
to increase the amount of memory covered per section, but that limits
the minimum granularity at which consecutive memory ranges can be added
via devm_memremap_pages().

The trade-off of what is acceptable to sacrifice depends heavily on the
platform.  For example, ZONE_CMA is targeted for 32-bit platforms where
page->flags is constrained, but those platforms likely do not care about
the minimum granularity of memory hotplug.  A big iron machine with 1024
numa nodes can likely sacrifice ZONE_DMA where a general purpose
distribution kernel can not.

CONFIG_NR_ZONES_EXTENDED is a configuration symbol that gets selected
when the number of configured zones exceeds 4.  It documents the
configuration symbols and definitions that get modified when ZONES_WIDTH
is greater than 2.

For now, it steals a bit from NODES_SHIFT.  Later on it can be used to
document the definitions that get modified when a 32-bit configuration
wants more zone bits.

So if you want ZONE_DMA, you're limited to 512 NUMA nodes?

That seems reasonable.

Sorry for the late reply, but it seems that with !SPARSEMEM, or with SPARSEMEM_VMEMMAP, reducing NUMA nodes isn't even necessary, because SECTIONS_WIDTH is zero (see the diagrams in linux/page-flags-layout.h). In my brief tests with 4.4 based kernel with SPARSEMEM_VMEMMAP it seems that with 1024 NUMA nodes and 8192 CPU's, there's still 7 bits left (i.e. 6 with CONFIG_NR_ZONES_EXTENDED).

With the danger of becoming even more complex, could the limit also depend on CONFIG_SPARSEMEM/VMEMMAP to reflect that somehow?

Or does it even make sense to limit the Kconfig choice like this? Same reduction of bits could be achieved in multiple ways. Less CPU's means smaller LAST_CPUPID_SHIFT. NUMA_BALACING disabled means LAST_CPUPID_SHIFT=0.

What would be perhaps better is to (in case things don't fit) show what uses how many bits and what are the relevant config options to tune to make it fit?

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