On Thu, 2010-03-25 at 18:02 +0900, KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki wrote: > On Thu, 25 Mar 2010 08:32:35 +0000 > Mel Gorman <mel@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > On Thu, Mar 25, 2010 at 11:49:23AM +0900, KOSAKI Motohiro wrote: > > > > On Fri, Mar 19, 2010 at 03:21:41PM +0900, KOSAKI Motohiro wrote: > > > Hmmm... > > > I haven't understand your mention because I guess I was wrong. > > > > > > probably my last question was unclear. I mean, > > > > > > 1) If we still need SLAB_DESTROY_BY_RCU, why do we need to add refcount? > > > Which difference is exist between normal page migration and compaction? > > > > The processes typically calling migration today own the page they are moving > > and is not going to exit unexpectedly during migration. > > > > > 2) If we added refcount, which race will solve? > > > > > > > The process exiting and the last anon_vma being dropped while compaction > > is running. This can be reliably triggered with compaction. > > > > > IOW, Is this patch fix old issue or compaction specific issue? > > > > > > > Strictly speaking, it's an old issue but in practice it's impossible to > > trigger because the process migrating always owns the page. Compaction > > moves pages belonging to arbitrary processes. > > > Kosaki-san, > > IIUC, the race in memory-hotunplug was fixed by this patch [2/11]. > > But, this behavior of unmap_and_move() requires access to _freed_ > objects (spinlock). Even if it's safe because of SLAB_DESTROY_BY_RCU, > it't not good habit in general. I agree kosaki's opinion. I guess Mel met the problem before this patch. Apparently, It had a problem like Mel's description. But we can close race window by this patch. so we don't need to new ref counter. At least, rcu_read_lock prevent anon_vma's free. so we can hold spinlock of anon_vma although it's not good habit. About reusing anon_vma by SLAB_XXX_RCU, page_check_address and vma_address can prevent wrong working in try_to_unmap. > After direct compaction, page-migration will be one of "core" code of > memory management. Then, I agree to patch [1/11] as our direction for > keeping sanity and showing direction to more updates. Maybe adding > refcnt and removing RCU in futuer is good. I agree. (use one locking rule) I don't mean that we have to remove SLAB_XXX_RCU. I want to reduce two locking rule with just one if we can. As far as we can do, I hope hide rcu_read_lock by Kame's version. (Kame's version copy & page) == if (PageAnon(page)) { struct anon_vma anon = page_lock_anon_vma(page); /* to take this lock, this page must be mapped. */ if (!anon_vma) goto uncharge; increase refcnt page_unlock_anon_vma(anon); } .... == and == void anon_vma_free(struct anon_vma *anon) { /* * To increase refcnt of anon-vma, anon_vma->lock should be held by * page_lock_anon_vma(). It means anon_vma has a "mapped" page. * If this anon is freed by unmap or exit, all pages under this anon * must be unmapped. Then, just checking refcnt without lock is ok. */ if (check refcnt > 0) return do nothing kmem_cache_free(anon); } == Many locking rule would make many contributor very hard. > > IMHO, pushing this patch [2/11] as "BUGFIX" independent of this set and > adding anon_vma->refcnt [1/11] and [3/11] in 1st Direct-compaction patch > series to show the direction will makse sense. > (I think merging 1/11 and 3/11 will be okay...) Yes. For reducing locking, We can enhance it step by step after merge [1/11] and [3/11] if others doesn't oppose it any more. > > Thanks, > -Kame > > -- Kind regards, Minchan Kim -- To unsubscribe, send a message with 'unsubscribe linux-mm' in the body to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxx For more info on Linux MM, see: http://www.linux-mm.org/ . Don't email: <a href=mailto:"dont@xxxxxxxxx"> email@xxxxxxxxx </a>