Re: [LSF/VM TOPIC] Dynamic sizing of dirty_limit

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On 2010-02-24, at 09:10, Christoph Lameter wrote:
On Wed, 24 Feb 2010, Jan Kara wrote:
fine (and you probably don't want much more because the memory is better
used for something else), when a machine does random rewrites, going to 40% might be well worth it. So I'd like to discuss how we could measure that increasing amount of dirtiable memory helps so that we could implement
dynamic sizing of it.

Another issue around dirty limits is that they are global. If you are
running multiple jobs on the same box (memcg or cpusets or you set
affinities to separate the box) then every job may need different dirty limits. One idea that I had in the past was to set dirty limits based on
nodes or cpusets. But that will not cover the other cases that I have
listed above.

The best solution would be an algorithm that can accomodate multiple loads
and manage the amount of dirty memory automatically.


Why not dirty limits per file and/or a function of the IO randomness vs the file size? Doing streaming on a large file can easily be detected and limited appropriately (either the filesystem can keep up and the "smaller" limit will not be hit, or it can't keep up and the application needs to be throttled nearly regardless of what the limit is). Doing streaming or random IO on small files is almost indistinguishable anyway and should pretty much be treated as random IO subject to a "larger" global limit.

Cheers, Andreas
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Andreas Dilger
Sr. Staff Engineer, Lustre Group
Sun Microsystems of Canada, Inc.

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