On Tuesday 02 November 2021 15:49:29 Pali Rohár wrote: > On Tuesday 02 November 2021 14:01:41 Maciej W. Rozycki wrote: > > On Tue, 2 Nov 2021, Pali Rohár wrote: > > > > > > None of the Galileo system controllers I came across had the class code > > > > set incorrectly. > > > > > > In kernel there is quirk only for one device with id: > > > PCI_VENDOR_ID_MARVELL (0x11ab) PCI_DEVICE_ID_MARVELL_GT64111 (0x4146) > > > > > > So for some reasons quirk is needed... Anyway, patch for this quirk just > > > adds comment as there is no explanation for it. It does not modify quirk > > > code. > > > > > > So it is possible that Marvell (or rather Galileo at that time) included > > > some config space fixup in some products and 0x4146 did not have it. > > > Just guessing... We can really only guess what could happen at that time > > > 20 years ago... > > > > Ah, there you go! -- sadly I don't seem to have a copy of the datasheet > > for the GT-64111, but the GT-64115 has it[1]: > > > > Table 158: PCI Class Code and Revision ID, Offset: 0x008 > > Bits Field name Function Initial Value > > 7:0 RevID Indicates the GT-64115 PCI Revision 0x01 > > number. > > 15:8 Reserved Read only. 0x0 > > 23:16 SubClass Indicates the GT-64115 Subclass - Mem- 0x80 > > ory controller. > > 31:24 BaseClass Indicates the GT-64115 Base Class - 0x05 > > memory controller. > > > > and then: > > > > "Device and Vendor ID (0x000), Class Code and Revision ID (0x008), and > > Header Type (0x00e) fields are read only from the PCI bus. These fields > > can be modified and read via the CPU bus." > > > > Likewise with the GT-64120[2]: > > > > Table 208: PCI_0 Class Code and Revision ID, Offset: 0x008 from PCI_0 or CPU; 0x088 from > > PCI_1 > > Bits Field name Function Initial Value > > 7:0 RevID Indicates the GT-64120 PCI_0 revision number. 0x02 > > 15:8 Reserved Read Only 0. 0x0 > > 23:16 SubClass Indicates the GT-64120 Subclass Depends on value > > 0x00 - Host Bridge Device. sampled at reset > > 0x80 - Memory Device. on BankSel[0]. See > > Table 44 on page > > 11-1. > > 31:24 BaseClass Indicates the GT-64120 Base Class Depends on value > > 0x06 - Bridge Device. sampled at reset > > 0x05 - Memory Device. on BankSel[0]. See > > Table 44 on page > > 11-1. > > > > Table 209: PCI_1 Class Code and Revision ID, Offset: 0x088 from PCI_0 or CPU; 0x008 from > > PCI_1 > > Bits Field name Function Initial Value > > 31:0 Various Same as for PCI_0 Class Code and Revision ID. > > > > and then also: > > > > "Device and Vendor ID (0x000), Class Code and Revision ID (0x008), and > > Header Type (0x00e) fields are read only from the PCI bus. These fields > > can be modified and read via the CPU bus." > > > > -- so this is system-specific and an intended chip feature rather than an > > erratum (or rather it is a system erratum if the reset strap or the boot > > firmware has got it wrong). > > > > The memory device class code is IIUC meant to be typically chosen when > > the Galileo/Marvell device is used without the CPU interface, i.e. as a > > PCI memory controller device only[3]. I have found on internet some copy of GT64111 datasheet ("GT-64111 System Controller for RC4640, RM523X and VR4300 CPUs", Galileo Technology, Product Preview Revision 1.1, FEB 4, 1999) and in section "17.15 PCI Configuration Registers" there is subsection "Class Code and Revision ID, Offset: 0x008" with content: Bits Field name Function Initial Value 7:0 RevID Indicates the GT-64111 Revision number. 0x10 GT-64111-P-0 = 0x10 15:8 Reserved 0x0 23:16 SubClass Indicates the GT-64111 Subclass (0x80 - other mem- 0x80 ory controller) 31:24 BaseClass Indicates the GT-64111 Base Class (0x5 - memory 0x05 controller). And in section "6.5.3 PCI Autoconfiguration at RESET" is following interesting information: Eight PCI registers can be automatically loaded after Rst*. Autoconfiguration mode is enabled by asserting the DMAReq[3]* LOW on Rst*. Any PCI transactions targeted for the GT-64111 will be retried while the loading of the PCI configuration registers is in process. It is highly recommended that all PC applications utilize the PCI Autoconfiguration at RESET feature. The autoload feature can be easily implemented with a very low cost EPLD. Galileo provides sample EPLD equations upon request. (You can always pull the EPLD off your final product if you find there are no issues during testing.) NOTE: The GT-64111’s default Class Code is 0x0580 (Memory Controller) which is a change from the GT-64011. The GT-64011 used the Class Code 0x0600 which denotes Host Bridge. Some PCs refuse to configure host bridges if they are found plugged into a PCI slot (ask the BIOS vendors why...). The “Memory Controller” Class Code does not cause a problem for these non-compliant BIOSes, so we used this as the default in the GT-64111. The Class Code can be reporgrammed in both devices via autoload or CPU register writes. The PCI register values are loaded from the ROM controlled by BootCS* are shown in Table 21, below. TABLE 21. PCI Registers Loaded at RESET Register Offset Boot Device Address Device and Vendor ID 0x000 0x1fffffe0 Class Code and Revision ID 0x008 0x1fffffe4 Subsystem Device and Vendor ID 0x02c 0x1fffffe8 Interrupt Pin and Line 0x03c 0x1fffffec RAS[1:0]* Bank Size 0xc08 0x1ffffff0 RAS[3:2]* Bank Size 0xc0c 0x1ffffff4 CS[2:0]* Bank Size 0xc10 0x1ffffff8 CS[3]* & Boot CS* Bank Size 0xc14 0x1ffffffc === So the conclusion is that there is also some RESET configuration via BootCS (I have no idea what it is or was). And default value (when RESET configuration is not used) is always "Memory controller" due to existence of "broken PC BIOSes" (probably x86). Hence the quirk for GT64111 in kernel is always needed. And Thomas already confirmed in his pci hexdump that PCI Class code is set to Memory Controller. I hope that now this mystery of this GT64111 quirk is solved :-) I will update patch with correct comment, why quirk is needed. So due to the fact that 20 years ago there were broken x86 BIOSes which did not like PCI devices with PCI Class code of Host Bridge, Marvell changed default PCI Class code to Memory Controller and let it in this state also for future PCIe-based ARM and AR64 SoCs for next 20 years. Which generally leaded to broken PCIe support in mvebu SoCs. I have no more comments about it... :-( > > > > The lack of a quirk with a platform does not mean it cannot have a certain > > > > PCI/e device. > > > > > > This is 11ab:4620 device an there is no PCIe capability in its config > > > space (you can inspect it via 'lspci -F dump.txt -nn -vv' but there is > > > nothing interesting). > > > > Of course, just as Thomas told you about the GT-64111 too. But you were > > right in that the memory controller feature seems shared across all the > > chip line, whether PCI or PCIe. > > > > References: > > > > [1] "GT-64115 System Controller for RC4640, RM523X, and VR4300 CPUs", > > Galileo Technology, Datasheet Revision 1.11, APR 04, 2000, Section > > 18.16 "PCI Configuration", p. 161 > > > > [2] "GT-64120 System Controller For RC4650/4700/5000 and RM526X/527X/7000 > > CPUs", Galileo Technology, Datasheet Revision 1.4, SEP 14, 1999, > > Section 17.16 "PCI Configuration", p. 17-59 > > > > [3] same, Chapter 14. "Using the GT-64120 Without the CPU Interface", p. > > 14-1 > > > > Maciej > > Hello Maciej! Thank you very much for the explanation! > > Now it makes sense and looks like that for GT-64111 it is "system > erratum" that strapping pins are incorrectly set which leads to wrong > PCI class code. > > I will update comment for GT-64111 quirk in v2. > > I'm surprised that Marvell copied this 20 years old MIPS Galileo PCI > logic into followup ARM SoC PCIe IPs (and later also into recent ARM64 > A3720 SoC PCIe IP), removed configuration of PCI class code via > strapping pins and let default PCI class code value to Memory device, > even also when PCIe controller is running in Root Complex mode. And so > correction can be done only from "CPU bus". > > Just Marvell forgot to include chapter about usage without CPU interface > in new ARM and ARM64 SoCs and origin/usage of that Memory Controller > Device was lost in history, even Marvell people was not able to figure > out what was wrong with PCIe IP in their ARM SoCs... > https://lore.kernel.org/linux-pci/20211003120944.3lmwxylnhlp2kfj7@pali/ > > Maciej, if I had known that you have this kind of information I would > have written you year ago :-)