On Wednesday 23 Mar 2016 13:47:42 Mauro Carvalho Chehab wrote:
> Em Wed, 23 Mar 2016 18:17:38 +0200 Sakari Ailus escreveu:
> > On Wed, Mar 23, 2016 at 12:00:59PM -0300, Mauro Carvalho Chehab wrote:
> >> Em Wed, 23 Mar 2016 15:05:41 +0100 Hans Verkuil escreveu:
> >>> On 03/23/2016 11:35 AM, Mauro Carvalho Chehab wrote:
> >>>> Em Wed, 23 Mar 2016 10:45:55 +0200 Laurent Pinchart escreveu:
> >>>>> Code that processes media entities can require knowledge of the
> >>>>> structure type that embeds a particular media entity instance in
> >>>>> order to cast the entity to the proper object type. This needs is
> >>>>> shown by the presence of the is_media_entity_v4l2_io and
> >>>>> is_media_entity_v4l2_subdev functions.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> The implementation of those two functions relies on the entity
> >>>>> function field, which is both a wrong and an inefficient design,
> >>>>> without even mentioning the maintenance issue involved in updating
> >>>>> the functions every time a new entity function is added. Fix this
> >>>>> by adding add an obj_type field to the media entity structure to
> >>>>> carry the information.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Signed-off-by: Laurent Pinchart
> >>>>> <laurent.pinchart+renesas@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >>>>> Acked-by: Hans Verkuil <hans.verkuil@xxxxxxxxx>
> >>>>> Acked-by: Sakari Ailus <sakari.ailus@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >>>>> ---
> >>>>>
> >>>>> drivers/media/media-device.c | 2 +
> >>>>> drivers/media/v4l2-core/v4l2-dev.c | 1 +
> >>>>> drivers/media/v4l2-core/v4l2-subdev.c | 1 +
> >>>>> include/media/media-entity.h | 79 ++++++++++++------------
> >>>>> 4 files changed, 46 insertions(+), 37 deletions(-)
> >>>>>
> >>>>> diff --git a/drivers/media/media-device.c
> >>>>> b/drivers/media/media-device.c
> >>>>> index 4a97d92a7e7d..88d8de3b7a4f 100644
> >>>>> --- a/drivers/media/media-device.c
> >>>>> +++ b/drivers/media/media-device.c
> >>>>> @@ -580,6 +580,8 @@ int __must_check
> >>>>> media_device_register_entity(struct media_device *mdev,> > > >>
> >>>>> "Entity type for entity %s was not initialized!\n",
> >>>>> entity->name);
> >>>>>
> >>>>> + WARN_ON(entity->obj_type == MEDIA_ENTITY_TYPE_INVALID);
> >>>>> +
> >>>>
> >>>> This is not ok. There are valid cases where the entity is not
> >>>> embedded on some other struct. That's the case of
> >>>> connectors/connections, for example: a connector/connection entity
> >>>> doesn't need anything else but struct media device.
> >>>
> >>> Once connectors are enabled, then we do need a
> >>> MEDIA_ENTITY_TYPE_CONNECTOR or MEDIA_ENTITY_TYPE_STANDALONE or
> >>> something along those lines.
> >>>
> >>>> Also, this is V4L2 specific. Neither ALSA nor DVB need to use
> >>>> container_of(). Actually, this won't even work there, as the entity
> >>>> is stored as a pointer, and not as an embedded data.
> >>>
> >>> Any other subsystem that *does* embed this can use obj_type. If it
> >>> doesn't embed it in anything, then MEDIA_ENTITY_TYPE_STANDALONE
> >>> should be used (or whatever name we give it). I agree that we need a
> >>> type define for the case where it is not embedded.
> >>>
> >>>> So, if we're willing to do this, then it should, instead, create
> >>>> something like:
> >>>>
> >>>> struct embedded_media_entity {
> >>>> struct media_entity entity;
> >>>> enum media_entity_type obj_type;
> >>>> };
> >>>
> >>> It's not v4l2 specific. It is just that v4l2 is the only subsystem
> >>> that requires this information at the moment. I see no reason at all
> >>> to create such an ugly struct.
> >>
> >> At the minute we added a BUG_ON() there, it became mandatory that all
> >> struct media_entity to be embedded. This is not always true, but
> >> as the intention is to avoid the risk of embedding it without a type,
> >> it makes sense to have the above struct. This way, the obj_type
> >> usage will be enforced *only* in the places where it is needed.
> >>
> >> We could, instead, remove BUG_ON() and make MEDIA_ENTITY_TYPE_STANDALONE
> >> the default type, but that won't enforce its usage where it is needed.
> >
> > My understanding, based on the previous discussion, was that the
> > media_entity would in practice be always embedded in another struct. If
> > that's not the case, I think Hans proposed a few good options for type
> > enums telling the media_entity is not embedded in another struct.
> >
> > For what it's worth, my personal favourite is "NONE".
>
> A "standalone" type would work. "none" doesn't seem a good name
> though, but I don't intend to spend much time with naming issues.
>
> >>> I very strongly suspect that other subsystems will also embed this in
> >>> their own internal structs.
> >>
> >> They will if they need.
> >>
> >>> I actually wonder why it isn't embedded in struct dvb_device,
> >>> but I have to admit that I didn't take a close look at that. The pads
> >>> are embedded there, so it is somewhat odd that the entity isn't.
> >>
> >> The only advantage of embedding instead of using a pointer is that
> >> it would allow to use container_of() to get the struct. On the
> >> other hand, there's one drawback: both container and embedded
> >> structs will be destroyed at the same time. This can be a problem
> >> if the embedded object needs to live longer than the container.
> >>
> >> Also, the usage of container_of() doesn't work fine if the
> >> container have embedded two objects of the same type.
> >>
> >> In the specific case of DVB, let's imagine we would use the above
> >> solution and add a MEDIA_ENTITY_TYPE_DVB_DEVICE.
> >>
> >> If you look into struct dvb_device, you'll see that there are
> >> actually two media_entities on it:
> >>
> >> struct dvb_device {
> >> ...
> >> struct media_entity *entity, *tsout_entity;
> >> ...
> >> };
> >>
> >> If we had embedded them, just knowing that the container is
> >> struct dvb_device won't help, as the offsets for "entity"
> >> and for "tsout_entity" to get its container would be different.
> >>
> >> OK, we could have added two types there, but all of these
> >> would be just adding uneeded complexity and wound't be error
> >> prone. Also, there's no need to use container_of(), as a pointer
> >> to the dvb_device struct is always there at the DVB code.
> >
> > If you wanted to obtain the dvb_device here, you'd instead add another
> > struct that embeds the struct media_entity. This struct would contain a
> > pointer to struct dvb_device. Simple and efficient.
>
> Why would someone need that? There's no need to embedding it at
> the DVB core. Adding an extra struct just to make the media core
> happy would just add extra complexity for no good reason.
Sakari's point was that *if* you need to obtain the dvb_device pointer from
the media_entity pointer you would add another structure. He didn't say you
have to do so if you don't have such a requirement, there's no need to change
anything.
> >> The same happens at ALSA code: so far, there's no need to go from a
> >> media_entity to its container.
> >>
> >> So, as I said before, the usage of container_of() and the need for an
> >> object type is currently V4L2 specific, and it is due to the way
> >> the v4l2 core and subdev framework was modeled. Don't expect or
> >> force that all subsystems would do the same.
> >
> > What you do miss with using a pointer above is to find sub-system specific
> > information related to the entity. It's a very common operation, if there
> > is sub-system specific information related to an entity. I would say that
> > if you don't, the driver creating the media device must be aware of a lot
> > of the properties of the devices the media graph consists of, or use
> > alternative means to associate subsystem specific information to entities.
> > Looping over a linked list, for instance, is bound to be less efficient.
>
> The media device creation is handled by the core at the DVB side.
> he knows already about any subsystem-specific data.
>
> > I don't see anything V4L2 specific here as such, even though no other
> > sub-system would (yet) need the feature.
>
> Right now, this need happens in the case here the media entity is created
> inside I2C devices, where the I2C driver doesn't know much about the
> callers.
>
> Such need is specific to a few subsystems: like v4l2 and hwmon.
>
> Ok, other systems could need to do that in the future, but such
> need assumes that the media_entities will be created by drivers
> that are connected to the main driver via some bus, with is not
> the generic case.
On the ALSA side this seems a quite common case to me, as codecs are usually
external chips.
--
Regards,
Laurent Pinchart
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