Re: Time for v4l-utils 1.2 release?

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Hi Mauro,

On Monday 23 June 2014 07:58:37 Mauro Carvalho Chehab wrote:
> Em Mon, 23 Jun 2014 10:22:18 +0200 Hans Verkuil escreveu:
> > On 06/21/2014 12:53 PM, Mauro Carvalho Chehab wrote:
> >> Em Sat, 21 Jun 2014 08:07:57 +0200 Hans Verkuil escreveu:
> >>> On 06/21/2014 12:29 AM, Mauro Carvalho Chehab wrote:
> >>>> Em Sat, 21 Jun 2014 00:07:19 +0200 Hans Verkuil escreveu:
> >>>>> On 06/20/2014 10:31 PM, Gregor Jasny wrote:
> >>>>>> Hello,
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>> It's been 11 months since the 1.0.0 release. What do you think about
> >>>>>> releasing HEAD? Do you have any pending commits?
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> I've got two patches from Laurent pending that ensure that the
> >>>>> 'installed kernel headers' are used. I plan on processing those on
> >>>>> Monday. After that I think it's OK to do a release.
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> Mauro, did you look at my email where I suggest to remove three apps
> >>>>> from contrib? If you agree with that, then I can do that Monday as
> >>>>> well.
> >>>> 
> >>>> Well, I don't remember about such email, nor I was able to find on a
> >>>> quick look.
> >>> 
> >>> https://www.mail-archive.com/linux-media@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx/msg76120.html
> >>> 
> >>> Marked with ATTN as well!
> >> 
> >> Well, from my side, feel free to drop those 3 utilities. If you drop
> >> v4lgrab, you'll need to check the DocBook Makefile scripts, as it used
> >> to have some automation to include it at the media DocBook.
> >> 
> >> I think that this was removed in the past, but it doesn't hurt to
> >> double-check.
> >> 
> >>>> What apps are you planning to remove?
> >>>> 
> >>>> Btw, I think it could be a good idea to be able to install some of
> >>>> those stuff under contrib to a separate package. I had to do a quick
> >>>> hack in order to install v4l2grab on a Tizen package, in order to be
> >>>> able to test a card there (as was needing to do some tests via CLI).
> >>> 
> >>> What does v4l2grab offer that v4l2-ctl doesn't? I would be much more
> >>> inclined to remove v4l2grab.
> >> 
> >> I never used v4l2-ctl for streaming (didn't even know/remember) that it
> >> was capable of doing that ;)
> > 
> > It was added about a year ago or something like that.
> > 
> >> Looking at --help-streaming, though, one thing that it is not clear
> >> there is what's the format of the output, when --stream-to= is used.
> > 
> > Completely raw output.
> > 
> >> Btw, I think that one big miss on v4l2-ctl is the lack of a man page
> >> witch would have an EXAMPLES section explaining things like that.
> > 
> > Absolutely. With a bit of luck I might have time for that fairly soon.
> > 
> >> One of the advantages of v4l2grab is that it takes per-frame snapshots,
> >> instead of writing a stream file. Those snapshots help to identify, for
> >> example, if there are interlacing issues on a frame, or if some frames
> >> have some other problems.
> > 
> > You can dump just a single frame as well with v4l2-ctl (--stream-count=1).
> 
> It is not the same. What I do with v4l2grab is to ask it to capture
> 30 seconds, storing frame by frame. Then, I can see if each frame is
> ok or not.
> 
> Btw, capturing just one frame with some webcams with auto bright will
> likely just get a black frame.
> 
> >> Also, v4l2grab is a good example of how to use libv4l, and it is
> >> enclosed at DocBook (not sure if we're using automation to allow
> >> including the latest version of it):
> >> 	http://linuxtv.org/downloads/v4l-dvb-apis/v4l2grab-example.html
> > 
> > Isn't capture.c.xml much more useful as example code? I have to admit, I
> > didn't know v4l2grab.c was used as an example.
> 
> I would prefer to remove capture.c, as it doesn't use libv4l. We do
> want that newer applications would use libv4l.

In most cases we do, but some specialized application still have use cases for 
using the V4L2 kernel API directly. Isn't example code still valuable for them 
?

> >> So, I don't think we should remove it.
> > 
> > No problem.

-- 
Regards,

Laurent Pinchart

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