[Kay removed because I don't like emailing arguable flamebait directly to the person flamed.] On 4 Oct 2012, nix@xxxxxxxxxxxxx stated: > By udev 175 I, and a lot of other people, had simply stopped upgrading > udev entirely on the grounds that we could no longer tolerate the > uncertainty over whether our systems would boot every time we upgraded > it, for no discernible benefit. Yes, all the incompatible changes are > (or were, as of udev 175) called out in the release notes -- but there > are so *many* of them, it's easy to miss one. And they all seem so > completely unnecessary, and their implications for your system > configuration grow more and more invasive all the time. In the bright light of day I realize that this post is not as off-topic for this thread as it appears. This is all of a piece. The udev maintainer insists that everyone else adapt to udev's demands: before now, it has been users, sysadmins, and userspace who must adapt, but now is is pushing its demands in the other direction as well: this thread is the result. -- NULL && (void) -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-media" in the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html