Re: [PATCH RFC] em28xx: PCTV 520e switch tda18271 to tda18271c2dd

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On 10/02/2012 03:42 PM, Michael Krufky wrote:
On Tue, Oct 2, 2012 at 8:29 AM, Antti Palosaari <crope@xxxxxx> wrote:
On 10/02/2012 02:05 PM, Mauro Carvalho Chehab wrote:

Em Tue, 02 Oct 2012 12:55:55 +0300
Antti Palosaari <crope@xxxxxx> escreveu:

On 10/02/2012 06:17 AM, Michael Krufky wrote:

On Mon, Oct 1, 2012 at 9:58 PM, Devin Heitmueller
<dheitmueller@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

On Mon, Oct 1, 2012 at 8:52 PM, Antti Palosaari <crope@xxxxxx> wrote:

New drxk firmware download does not work with tda18271. Actual
reason is more drxk driver than tda18271. Anyhow, tda18271c2dd
will work as it does not do as much I/O during attach than tda18271.

Root of cause is tuner I/O during drx-k asynchronous firmware
download. request_firmware_nowait()... :-/


This seems like it's just changing the timing of the initialization
process, which isn't really any better than the "msleep(2000)".  It's
just dumb luck that it happens to work on the developer's system.

Don't get me wrong, I agree with Michael that this whole situation is
ridiculous, but I don't see why swapping out the entire driver is a
reasonable fix.


I just send out a patch entitled, "tda18271: prevent register access
during attach() if delay_cal is set"   Antti, could you set
tda18271_config.delay_cal = 1 with this patch applied and see if it
solves your problem?

Again, although this may solve the problem for this particular device,
the *real* problem is this asynchronous firmware download in the demod
driver.

Nonetheless, Antti has been asking for this feature, to not allow
register access during attach, I was against it and I have my reasons,
but I believe that this patch is a fair compromise.

After somebody can test it, I think we should merge this -- any
comments?

http://patchwork.linuxtv.org/patch/14799/


I tested. It does not help. I also looked it more and it really bails
out with error much earlier, in function where it reads chip ID. That
makes me look the tda18271c2dd driver.


I saw Antti's logs: basically, tda18271_get_id() reads all registers at
the
chip during attach(), returning -EINVAL if tda18271_read_regs(fe) can't
read the value for R_ID register.

Btw, why do you need to read 16 registers at once, instead of just reading
the needed register? read_extended and write operations are even more
evil:
they read/write the full set of 39 registers on each operation. That seems
to be overkill, especially on places like tda18271_get_id(), where
all the driver is doing is to check for the ID register.

Worse than that, tda18271_get_id() doesn't even check if the read()
operation failed: it assumes that it will always work, letting the
switch(regs[R_ID]) to print a wrong message (device unknown) when
what actually failed where the 16 registers dump.

I found that for some reason
these drivers uses different method for register read. tda18271 uses I2C
transaction with 2 messages, write and read with REPEATED START
condition. tda18271c2dd driver is just simple I2C read. So which one is
correct?


That's due to the I2C locking schema: if you do two separate I2C
transfers, the I2C core will allow an event to happen between the
two operations. That typically causes troubles on read operations.
So, it is recommended to use just one i2c_transfer() call for read
operations that are mapped via a write and a read.


I know rather well how I2C works. As many messages you put to single
transfer those are aimed to do with REPEATED START condition without a STOP.
And naturally, when you split to multiple transactions then there is STOP.
STOP is send after the last I2C message in one transaction.

But what I tried to say there was a different communication schema used
between the drivers. Other must (quite likely) be wrong. There is no any
mention about hacks. I don't see how that I2C locking you mention is
related, as it is *one* I2C transfer in question for both cases.

Here is difference what I mean:
tda18271: START c0|Ack|00|Ack|START c1|data read|NAck|STOP
tda18271cc: START c1|data read|NAck|STOP

As per section 9.1 of the NXP TDA18271 datasheet (page 8) (download
from http://www.nxp.com/documents/data_sheet/TDA18271HD.pdf)

9.1 I2C-bus format, Write/Read mode
Remark: The I2C-bus read in the TDA18271HD must read the entire
I2C-bus map, with
required subaddress 00h. The number of bytes read is 16, or 39 in
extended register
mode; see Table 7. Reading write-only bits can return values that are
different from the
programmed values

tda18271 is doing the right thing, tda18271cc is not.

-Mike Krufky

Yes, you are correct! Thanks.

I will still test if it makes any difference.

regards
Antti


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