On 06.12.2011 12:21, Mark Brown wrote: > On Mon, Dec 05, 2011 at 09:41:38PM +0100, Andreas Oberritter wrote: >> On 05.12.2011 18:39, Mauro Carvalho Chehab wrote: > >>> When you put someone via the network, issues like latency, package >>> drops, IP >>> congestion, QoS issues, cryptography, tunneling, etc should be taken >>> into account >>> by the application, in order to properly address the network issues. > >> Are you serious? Lower networking layers should be transparent to the >> upper layers. You don't implement VPN or say TCP in all of your >> applications, do you? These are just some more made-up arguments which >> don't have anything to do with the use cases I explained earlier. > > For real time applications it does make a big difference - decisions > taken at the application level can greatly impact end application > performance. For example with VoIP on a LAN you can get great audio > quality by using very little compression at the expense of high > bandwidth and you can probably use a very small jitter buffer. Try > doing that over a longer distance or more congested network which drops > packets and it becomes useful to use a more commpressed encoding for > your data which may have better features for handling packet loss, or to > increase your jitter buffer to cope with the less reliable transmit > times. Can you please explain how this relates to the topic we're discussing? -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-media" in the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html