On Tue, Sep 6, 2011 at 3:12 PM, Mauro Carvalho Chehab <mchehab@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >> From a practical standpoint, the Ubuntu folks have the original tvtime >> tarball and all their changes in one patch, which is clearly a bunch >> of patches that are mashed together probably in their build system. I >> need to reach out to them to find where they have an actual SCM tree >> or the individual patches. They've got a bunch of patches which would >> be good to get into a single tree (autobuild fixes, cross-compilation, >> locale updates, etc). > > Yeah, it seems interesting. Maybe we can get something from this place: > http://packages.qa.debian.org/t/tvtime.html > > The maintainer there seems to be: > http://qa.debian.org/developer.php?login=bartm@xxxxxxxxxx I reached out to the Ubuntu maintainer; we'll see if he gets back to me. From what I can tell it seems like Debian is actually taking the patches from Ubuntu (yes, I realize this is backwards from their typical process where Ubuntu bases their stuff on Debian). >> In the long term I have no real issue with the LinuxTV group being the >> official maintainer of record. I've got lots of ideas and things I >> would like to do to improve tvtime, but in practice I've done a pretty >> crappy job of maintaining the source (merging patches, etc) at this >> point. > > Putting it on a common place and giving permissions to a group of people > is interesting, as none of us are focused on userspace, so we all > have a very limited amount of time for dealing with userspace applications. > > By giving commit rights to a group of developers, it ends that more > developers will contribute, speeding up the development. > > That was what happened with v4l-utils and, on a minor scale, with xawtv3. > > If you're ok with that, I can set a tvtime git repository at LinuxTV, > cloning the tree I've created there already (it is a pure conversion > of your tree from mercurial into git, if I remove the patches I've > done so far from your clone), giving you the ownership of the new tree, > and marking it as a shared repository. I have no problem with this. Let's set it up. > I have already all set there to allow shared access to the repository > (in opposite to -hg, git works really cool with shared repositories). I actually haven't hosted any git repos on linuxtv.org before. I'm assuming my ssh public key got copied over from when I was hosting hg repos there? > We can later add permissions to the developers interested on helping > the tvtime maintenance that you agree to add. Sounds good. As said earlier, Kernel Labs never really wanted to be the maintainer for tvtime - we did it because nobody else wanted to (and vektor never responded to emails I sent him offering to help). That said, a community oriented approach is probably the best for everybody involved. I'll probably be looking in the next couple of weeks to write some fresh content for a tvtime website. The stuff on tvtime.sourceforge.net is so dated almost none of it still applies. Thanks, Devin -- Devin J. Heitmueller - Kernel Labs http://www.kernellabs.com -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-media" in the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html