Em 06-09-2011 15:41, Devin Heitmueller escreveu: > On Tue, Sep 6, 2011 at 2:19 PM, Hans de Goede <hdegoede@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >> I think that what should be done is contact the debian / ubuntu maintainers, >> get any interesting fixes they have which the kl version misses merged, >> and then just declare the kl version as being the new official upstream >> (with the blessing of the debian / ubuntu guys, and if possible also >> with the blessing of the original authors). > > It has always been my intention to get the Debian/Ubuntu patches > merged (as well as other distros). My thoughts behind renaming were > oriented around the notion that that there are more distros out there > than just Fedora/Ubuntu/Debian, but that may be something that isn't > really a concern. Also, I had no idea whether the distros would > actually switch over to the Kernel Labs version as the official > upstream source, so providing it under a different name would in > theory allow both packages to be available in parallel. > > From a practical standpoint, the Ubuntu folks have the original tvtime > tarball and all their changes in one patch, which is clearly a bunch > of patches that are mashed together probably in their build system. I > need to reach out to them to find where they have an actual SCM tree > or the individual patches. They've got a bunch of patches which would > be good to get into a single tree (autobuild fixes, cross-compilation, > locale updates, etc). Yeah, it seems interesting. Maybe we can get something from this place: http://packages.qa.debian.org/t/tvtime.html The maintainer there seems to be: http://qa.debian.org/developer.php?login=bartm@xxxxxxxxxx >> This would require kl git to be open to others for pushing, or we >> could move the tree to git.linuxtv.org (which I assume may be >> easier then for you to make the necessary changes to give >> others push rights on kl.org). > > Kernel Labs has never really had any real interest in "owning" tvtime. > I just setup the hg tree in an effort to get all the distro patches > in one place and have something that builds against current kernels > (and on which I can add improvements/fixes without users having to > deal with patches). At the time there was also nobody who clearly had > the desire to serve as an official maintainer. > > In the long term I have no real issue with the LinuxTV group being the > official maintainer of record. I've got lots of ideas and things I > would like to do to improve tvtime, but in practice I've done a pretty > crappy job of maintaining the source (merging patches, etc) at this > point. Putting it on a common place and giving permissions to a group of people is interesting, as none of us are focused on userspace, so we all have a very limited amount of time for dealing with userspace applications. By giving commit rights to a group of developers, it ends that more developers will contribute, speeding up the development. That was what happened with v4l-utils and, on a minor scale, with xawtv3. If you're ok with that, I can set a tvtime git repository at LinuxTV, cloning the tree I've created there already (it is a pure conversion of your tree from mercurial into git, if I remove the patches I've done so far from your clone), giving you the ownership of the new tree, and marking it as a shared repository. I have already all set there to allow shared access to the repository (in opposite to -hg, git works really cool with shared repositories). We can later add permissions to the developers interested on helping the tvtime maintenance that you agree to add. Regards, Mauro -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-media" in the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html