Re: [PATCH v2 1/5] media: Add MIPI CCI register access helper functions

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On Thu, Jun 15, 2023 at 01:26:25PM +0200, Tommaso Merciai wrote:
> Hi Hans,
> 
> On Thu, Jun 15, 2023 at 01:10:40PM +0200, Hans de Goede wrote:
> > Hi Tommaso,
> > 
> > On 6/15/23 12:05, Tommaso Merciai wrote:
> > > Hi Hans, Laurent, Sakari,
> > > 
> > > Can I cherry-pick this patch and use these new functions also
> > > for cci regs of the alvium driver?
> > 
> > Yes that sounds like a good plan.
> > 
> > > Are on going to be merge?
> > 
> > Yes this will hopefully get merged upstream soon.
> 
> Thanks for the info!
> 
> I want to ask you your opinion about this:
> 
> Into alvium driver actually I'm using the following defines
> manipulations:
> 
> #define REG_BCRM_REG_ADDR_R				REG_BCRM_CCI_16BIT(0x0014)
> 
> #define REG_BCRM_FEATURE_INQUIRY_R			REG_BCRM_V4L2_64BIT(0x0008)
> #define REG_BCRM_DEVICE_FIRMWARE_VERSION_R		REG_BCRM_V4L2_64BIT(0x0010)
> 
> My plan is to use your cci API for cci register in this way defines
> became like:
> 
> #define REG_BCRM_REG_ADDR_R				CCI_REG16(0x0014)
> 
> And leave v4l2 regs are it are right now:
> 
> #define REG_BCRM_FEATURE_INQUIRY_R			REG_BCRM_V4L2_64BIT(0x0008)
> #define REG_BCRM_DEVICE_FIRMWARE_VERSION_R		REG_BCRM_V4L2_64BIT(0x0010)
> 
> What do you think about?

Or maybe is worth don't use v4l2 bit for v4l2 regs, I think is implicit
that what regs that are not CCI are v4l2, then we return wit the
following defines:



#define REG_BCRM_REG_ADDR_R                           CCI_REG16(0x0014)
^CCI regs

#define REG_BCRM_FEATURE_INQUIRY_R                    0x0008 
#define REG_BCRM_DEVICE_FIRMWARE_VERSION_R            0x0010
^v4l2 regs

?

> 
> > 
> > Note I'm about to send out a v3 addressing some small
> > remarks on this v2. I'll Cc you on that.
> 
> Thanks, in this way I can test that and let you know my feedback.
> 
> Regards,
> Tommaso
> 
> > 
> > Regards,
> > 
> > Hans
> > 
> > 
> > > 
> > > Let me know.
> > > Thanks! :)
> > > 
> > > Regards,
> > > Tommaso
> > > 
> > > On Thu, Jun 15, 2023 at 12:21:00PM +0300, Laurent Pinchart wrote:
> > >> On Thu, Jun 15, 2023 at 11:11:20AM +0200, Hans de Goede wrote:
> > >>> Hi Sakari,
> > >>>
> > >>> On 6/14/23 23:48, Sakari Ailus wrote:
> > >>>> Hi Laurent,
> > >>>>
> > >>>> On Thu, Jun 15, 2023 at 12:34:29AM +0300, Laurent Pinchart wrote:
> > >>>>> Hello,
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> On Wed, Jun 14, 2023 at 08:39:56PM +0000, Sakari Ailus wrote:
> > >>>>>> On Wed, Jun 14, 2023 at 09:23:39PM +0200, Hans de Goede wrote:
> > >>>>>>> The CSI2 specification specifies a standard method to access camera sensor
> > >>>>>>> registers called "Camera Control Interface (CCI)".
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> This uses either 8 or 16 bit (big-endian wire order) register addresses
> > >>>>>>> and supports 8, 16, 24 or 32 bit (big-endian wire order) register widths.
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> Currently a lot of Linux camera sensor drivers all have their own custom
> > >>>>>>> helpers for this, often copy and pasted from other drivers.
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> Add a set of generic helpers for this so that all sensor drivers can
> > >>>>>>> switch to a single common implementation.
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> These helpers take an extra optional "int *err" function parameter,
> > >>>>>>> this can be used to chain a bunch of register accesses together with
> > >>>>>>> only a single error check at the end, rather then needing to error
> > >>>>>>> check each individual register access. The first failing call will
> > >>>>>>> set the contents of err to a non 0 value and all other calls will
> > >>>>>>> then become no-ops.
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> Link: https://lore.kernel.org/linux-media/59aefa7f-7bf9-6736-6040-39551329cd0a@xxxxxxxxxx/
> > >>>>>>> Signed-off-by: Hans de Goede <hdegoede@xxxxxxxxxx>
> > >>>>>>> ---
> > >>>>>>> Changes in v2:
> > >>>>>>> - Drop cci_reg_type enum
> > >>>>>>> - Make having an encoded reg-width mandatory rather then using 0 to encode
> > >>>>>>>   8 bit width making reg-addresses without an encoded width default to
> > >>>>>>>   a width of 8
> > >>>>>>> - Add support for 64 bit wide registers
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> I'm in two minds about this. This means that the read and write
> > >>>>> functions take a u64 argument, which will be less efficient on 32-bit
> > >>>>> platforms. I think it would be possible, with some macro magic, to
> > >>>>> accept different argument sizes, but maybe that's a micro-optimization
> > >>>>> that would actually result in worse code. 
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> 64-bit support could be useful, but as far as I can tell, it's not used
> > >>>>> in this series, so maybe we could leave this for later ?
> > >>>>
> > >>>> I prefer to have it now, I just told Tommaso working on the Alvium driver
> > >>>> to use this, and he needs 64-bit access. :-)
> > >>>>
> > >>>> You could also easily have 32-bit and 64-bit variant of the functions, with
> > >>>> C11 _Generic(). Introducing it now would be easier than later.
> > >>>
> > >>> I took a quick look at C11 _Generic() and that looks at the type
> > >>> of "things" so in this case it would look at type of the val argument.
> > >>>
> > >>> Problem is that that can still be e.g. an int when doing a
> > >>> read/write from a 64 bit registers.
> > >>>
> > >>> So we would then need to handle the 64 bit width case in the 32
> > >>> bit versions of the functions too.
> > >>>
> > >>> And likewise I can see someone passing a long on a 64 bit
> > >>> arch while doing a cci_write() to a non 64 bit register.
> > >>>
> > >>> So this would basically mean copy and pasting cci_read()
> > >>> + cci_write() 2x with the only difference being one
> > >>> variant taking a 32 bit val argument and the other a
> > >>> 64 bit val argument.
> > >>>
> > >>> This seems like premature optimization to me.
> > >>>
> > >>> As mentioned in my reply to Laurent if we want to
> > >>> optimize things we really should look at avoiding
> > >>> unnecessary i2c transfers, or packing multiple
> > >>> writes into a single i2c transfer for writes to
> > >>> subsequent registers. That is where significant
> > >>> speedups can be made.
> > >>
> > >> This is something I'd really like to see, but it's way more work.
> > >>
> > >> There's an important need of applying changes atomically, which is often
> > >> not possible to strictly guarantee over I2C. Userspace ends up writing
> > >> V4L2 controls as quickly as it can after the start of a frame, hoping
> > >> they will all reach the sensor before the end of the frame. Some
> > >> platforms have camera-specific I2C controllers that have the ability to
> > >> buffer I2C transfers and issue them based on a hardware trigger. How to
> > >> fit this in thé kernel I2C API will be an interesting exercise.
> > >>
> > >> -- 
> > >> Regards,
> > >>
> > >> Laurent Pinchart
> > > 
> > 



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