Re: [PATCH v2 1/5] media: Add MIPI CCI register access helper functions

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Hi Hans, Laurent, Sakari,

Can I cherry-pick this patch and use these new functions also
for cci regs of the alvium driver? Are on going to be merge?

Let me know.
Thanks! :)

Regards,
Tommaso

On Thu, Jun 15, 2023 at 12:21:00PM +0300, Laurent Pinchart wrote:
> On Thu, Jun 15, 2023 at 11:11:20AM +0200, Hans de Goede wrote:
> > Hi Sakari,
> > 
> > On 6/14/23 23:48, Sakari Ailus wrote:
> > > Hi Laurent,
> > > 
> > > On Thu, Jun 15, 2023 at 12:34:29AM +0300, Laurent Pinchart wrote:
> > >> Hello,
> > >>
> > >> On Wed, Jun 14, 2023 at 08:39:56PM +0000, Sakari Ailus wrote:
> > >>> On Wed, Jun 14, 2023 at 09:23:39PM +0200, Hans de Goede wrote:
> > >>>> The CSI2 specification specifies a standard method to access camera sensor
> > >>>> registers called "Camera Control Interface (CCI)".
> > >>>>
> > >>>> This uses either 8 or 16 bit (big-endian wire order) register addresses
> > >>>> and supports 8, 16, 24 or 32 bit (big-endian wire order) register widths.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Currently a lot of Linux camera sensor drivers all have their own custom
> > >>>> helpers for this, often copy and pasted from other drivers.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Add a set of generic helpers for this so that all sensor drivers can
> > >>>> switch to a single common implementation.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> These helpers take an extra optional "int *err" function parameter,
> > >>>> this can be used to chain a bunch of register accesses together with
> > >>>> only a single error check at the end, rather then needing to error
> > >>>> check each individual register access. The first failing call will
> > >>>> set the contents of err to a non 0 value and all other calls will
> > >>>> then become no-ops.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Link: https://lore.kernel.org/linux-media/59aefa7f-7bf9-6736-6040-39551329cd0a@xxxxxxxxxx/
> > >>>> Signed-off-by: Hans de Goede <hdegoede@xxxxxxxxxx>
> > >>>> ---
> > >>>> Changes in v2:
> > >>>> - Drop cci_reg_type enum
> > >>>> - Make having an encoded reg-width mandatory rather then using 0 to encode
> > >>>>   8 bit width making reg-addresses without an encoded width default to
> > >>>>   a width of 8
> > >>>> - Add support for 64 bit wide registers
> > >>
> > >> I'm in two minds about this. This means that the read and write
> > >> functions take a u64 argument, which will be less efficient on 32-bit
> > >> platforms. I think it would be possible, with some macro magic, to
> > >> accept different argument sizes, but maybe that's a micro-optimization
> > >> that would actually result in worse code. 
> > >>
> > >> 64-bit support could be useful, but as far as I can tell, it's not used
> > >> in this series, so maybe we could leave this for later ?
> > > 
> > > I prefer to have it now, I just told Tommaso working on the Alvium driver
> > > to use this, and he needs 64-bit access. :-)
> > > 
> > > You could also easily have 32-bit and 64-bit variant of the functions, with
> > > C11 _Generic(). Introducing it now would be easier than later.
> > 
> > I took a quick look at C11 _Generic() and that looks at the type
> > of "things" so in this case it would look at type of the val argument.
> > 
> > Problem is that that can still be e.g. an int when doing a
> > read/write from a 64 bit registers.
> > 
> > So we would then need to handle the 64 bit width case in the 32
> > bit versions of the functions too.
> > 
> > And likewise I can see someone passing a long on a 64 bit
> > arch while doing a cci_write() to a non 64 bit register.
> > 
> > So this would basically mean copy and pasting cci_read()
> > + cci_write() 2x with the only difference being one
> > variant taking a 32 bit val argument and the other a
> > 64 bit val argument.
> > 
> > This seems like premature optimization to me.
> > 
> > As mentioned in my reply to Laurent if we want to
> > optimize things we really should look at avoiding
> > unnecessary i2c transfers, or packing multiple
> > writes into a single i2c transfer for writes to
> > subsequent registers. That is where significant
> > speedups can be made.
> 
> This is something I'd really like to see, but it's way more work.
> 
> There's an important need of applying changes atomically, which is often
> not possible to strictly guarantee over I2C. Userspace ends up writing
> V4L2 controls as quickly as it can after the start of a frame, hoping
> they will all reach the sensor before the end of the frame. Some
> platforms have camera-specific I2C controllers that have the ability to
> buffer I2C transfers and issue them based on a hardware trigger. How to
> fit this in thé kernel I2C API will be an interesting exercise.
> 
> -- 
> Regards,
> 
> Laurent Pinchart



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