Re: Tentative agenda for Helsinki mini-summit

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On Wednesday 26 May 2010 17:46:16 Pawel Osciak wrote:
> Hi Hans,
> 
> thank you for your work on this!
> 
> >Hans Verkuil wrote:
> 
> >3) videobuf/videobuf2: what are the shortcomings, what are the requirements
> >for a 'proper' videobuf implementation, can the existing videobuf be fixed or
> >do we need a videobuf2. If the latter, what would be needed to convert
> >existing drivers over to a videobuf2. Laurent Pinchart and Pawel Osciak. This I'm
> >sure requires a presentation.
> 
> As Laurent volunteered to prepare the "videobuf problems" presentation, I will
> hopefully make it before the summit with an initial (general) design for the new
> videobuf2 - requirements, API, things like that. So I'm thinking about a short
> presentation on this. What do you think?

Yes please!

> >4) Multi-planar support. Pawel Osciak.
> 
> Yes. Will provide a short status update. Is a presentation of the whole concept
> required? If so, I can conduct one as well.

A presentation for this is not necessary, I think.
 
> >9) Driver compliance. We need a framework for V4L2 driver compliance. Hans
> >   Verkuil.
> 
> I am very interested in this!
> 
> >10) Discuss list of 'reference' programs to test against. Mauro?
> >
> 
> Ditto.
> 
> >During the memory handling brainstorming session earlier this year we also
> >touched on creating some sort of a generic buffer model allowing for easy
> >exchange between v4l buffers, framebuffers, texture buffers, etc. It is my
> >opinion that we should not discuss this in Helsinki. The list of topics is
> >already quite long and I think it is too early to start working on that. We
> >probably need another brainstorming session first in order to come up with
> >a reasonable proposal.
> 
> I agree.
> 
> >Comments? Topics I missed?
> 
> It would be great to touch on the following subjects if we find some time
> (and if people would be interested, I had little feedback on the list):
> 
> 1) Custom/pluggable allocators
> As most of us are aware there are important problems with memory allocation
> in videobuf that most of us have already faced.
> For those unfamiliar with the topic, please see my recent RFC:
> http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.linux.drivers.video-input-infrastructure/19581
> 
> I'd like to provide a design of an API:
> * for videobuf that would allow drivers to plug-in their own memory allocation
>   routines,
> * future-proof enough to be usable with videobuf2 as well.
> 
> Hoping for a (short-ish) discussion on that.
> 
> 2) Out-of-order buffer dequeuing and per-buffer wait queues in videobuf. See:
> RFC: http://www.mail-archive.com/linux-media@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx/msg17319.html
> Patches: http://www.mail-archive.com/linux-media@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx/msg17886.html
> 
> 
> Please let me know what you think. Thanks!

These two items should probably be folded into the videobuf presentations.

Regards,

	Hans

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Hans Verkuil - video4linux developer - sponsored by TANDBERG, part of Cisco
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