On 6 April 2010 18:06, Jonathan Cameron <jic23@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > On 04/06/10 15:32, Mauro Carvalho Chehab wrote: >> Hans Verkuil wrote: >>>> Hans Verkuil wrote: >>>>> $ ls /sys/class/video4linux/video1/controls >>>>> balance mpeg_insert_navigation_packets >>>>> mpeg_video_aspect >>>>> brightness mpeg_median_chroma_filter_maximum >>>>> mpeg_video_b_frames >>>>> chroma_agc mpeg_median_chroma_filter_minimum >>>>> mpeg_video_bitrate >>>>> chroma_gain mpeg_median_filter_type >>>>> mpeg_video_bitrate_mode >>>>> contrast mpeg_median_luma_filter_maximum >>>>> mpeg_video_encoding >>>>> hue mpeg_median_luma_filter_minimum >>>>> mpeg_video_gop_closure >>>>> mpeg_audio_crc mpeg_spatial_chroma_filter_type >>>>> mpeg_video_gop_size >>>>> mpeg_audio_emphasis mpeg_spatial_filter >>>>> mpeg_video_mute >>>>> mpeg_audio_encoding mpeg_spatial_filter_mode >>>>> mpeg_video_mute_yuv >>>>> mpeg_audio_layer_ii_bitrate mpeg_spatial_luma_filter_type >>>>> mpeg_video_peak_bitrate >>>>> mpeg_audio_mute mpeg_stream_type >>>>> mpeg_video_temporal_decimation >>>>> mpeg_audio_sampling_frequency mpeg_stream_vbi_format >>>>> mute >>>>> mpeg_audio_stereo_mode mpeg_temporal_filter >>>>> saturation >>>>> mpeg_audio_stereo_mode_extension mpeg_temporal_filter_mode >>>>> volume >>>> >>>> It would be more intuitive if you group the classes with a few subdirs: >>>> >>>> /video/balance >>>> /video/brightness >>>> ... >>>> /mpeg_audio/crc >>>> /mpeg_audio/mute >>>> ... >>>> /audio/volume >>>> /audio/bass >>>> /audio/treble >>> >>> 1) We don't have that information. >>> 2) It would make a simple scheme suddenly a lot more complicated (see >>> Andy's comments) >>> 3) The main interface is always the application's GUI through ioctls, not >>> sysfs. >>> 4) Remember that ivtv has an unusually large number of controls. Most >>> drivers will just have the usual audio and video controls, perhaps 10 at >>> most. >> >> Ok. >> >>> I think we should just ditch this for the first implementation of the >>> control framework. It can always be added later, but once added it is >>> *much* harder to remove again. It's a nice proof-of-concept, though :-) >> >> I like the concept, especially if we can get rid of other similar sysfs interfaces >> that got added on a few drivers (pvrusb2 and some non-gspca drivers have >> it, for sure). I think I saw some of the gspca patches also touching on sysfs. >> Having this unified into a common interface is a bonus. > > Obviously it adds to the review burden, but perhaps we can state that the sysfs > interface is only an additional option (and personally I think I'd find it pretty > helpful for debugging if nothing else) and that all functionality there MUST be > available through the normal routes? If any functionality only supported via > sysfs is seen as a bug, then we can point it out in reviews etc. > > I agree with Mauro that it would be really handy to unify any interfaces that are > going to turn up there anyway. > > Generally I'm personally in favor with the convenience of sysfs interfaces for quick > and dirty debugging purposes but perhaps this isn't the time to do it here. Hi all, I'm a newbie but I have to ask: how about using debugfs instead of sysfs? Then everyone will know that the interface is for debugging only and not production code :-) Best regards, Bjørn Forsman -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-media" in the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html