On 04/06/10 15:32, Mauro Carvalho Chehab wrote: > Hans Verkuil wrote: >>> Hans Verkuil wrote: >>>> $ ls /sys/class/video4linux/video1/controls >>>> balance mpeg_insert_navigation_packets >>>> mpeg_video_aspect >>>> brightness mpeg_median_chroma_filter_maximum >>>> mpeg_video_b_frames >>>> chroma_agc mpeg_median_chroma_filter_minimum >>>> mpeg_video_bitrate >>>> chroma_gain mpeg_median_filter_type >>>> mpeg_video_bitrate_mode >>>> contrast mpeg_median_luma_filter_maximum >>>> mpeg_video_encoding >>>> hue mpeg_median_luma_filter_minimum >>>> mpeg_video_gop_closure >>>> mpeg_audio_crc mpeg_spatial_chroma_filter_type >>>> mpeg_video_gop_size >>>> mpeg_audio_emphasis mpeg_spatial_filter >>>> mpeg_video_mute >>>> mpeg_audio_encoding mpeg_spatial_filter_mode >>>> mpeg_video_mute_yuv >>>> mpeg_audio_layer_ii_bitrate mpeg_spatial_luma_filter_type >>>> mpeg_video_peak_bitrate >>>> mpeg_audio_mute mpeg_stream_type >>>> mpeg_video_temporal_decimation >>>> mpeg_audio_sampling_frequency mpeg_stream_vbi_format >>>> mute >>>> mpeg_audio_stereo_mode mpeg_temporal_filter >>>> saturation >>>> mpeg_audio_stereo_mode_extension mpeg_temporal_filter_mode >>>> volume >>> >>> It would be more intuitive if you group the classes with a few subdirs: >>> >>> /video/balance >>> /video/brightness >>> ... >>> /mpeg_audio/crc >>> /mpeg_audio/mute >>> ... >>> /audio/volume >>> /audio/bass >>> /audio/treble >> >> 1) We don't have that information. >> 2) It would make a simple scheme suddenly a lot more complicated (see >> Andy's comments) >> 3) The main interface is always the application's GUI through ioctls, not >> sysfs. >> 4) Remember that ivtv has an unusually large number of controls. Most >> drivers will just have the usual audio and video controls, perhaps 10 at >> most. > > Ok. > >> I think we should just ditch this for the first implementation of the >> control framework. It can always be added later, but once added it is >> *much* harder to remove again. It's a nice proof-of-concept, though :-) > > I like the concept, especially if we can get rid of other similar sysfs interfaces > that got added on a few drivers (pvrusb2 and some non-gspca drivers have > it, for sure). I think I saw some of the gspca patches also touching on sysfs. > Having this unified into a common interface is a bonus. Obviously it adds to the review burden, but perhaps we can state that the sysfs interface is only an additional option (and personally I think I'd find it pretty helpful for debugging if nothing else) and that all functionality there MUST be available through the normal routes? If any functionality only supported via sysfs is seen as a bug, then we can point it out in reviews etc. I agree with Mauro that it would be really handy to unify any interfaces that are going to turn up there anyway. Generally I'm personally in favor with the convenience of sysfs interfaces for quick and dirty debugging purposes but perhaps this isn't the time to do it here. -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-media" in the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html