Hi Dmitry, On 11/02/18 18:15, Dmitry Vyukov wrote: > On Wed, Oct 31, 2018 at 10:46 AM, Hans Verkuil <hverkuil@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: >> On 10/30/2018 03:02 PM, Dmitry Vyukov wrote: >>> Hello Helen and linux-media, >>> >>> I've attended your talk "Shifting Media App Development into High >>> Gear" on OSS Summit last week and approached you with some questions >>> if/how this can be used for kernel testing. Thanks, turn out to be a >>> very useful talk! >>> >>> I am working on syzkaller/syzbot, continuous kernel fuzzing system: >>> https://github.com/google/syzkaller >>> https://github.com/google/syzkaller/blob/master/docs/syzbot.md >>> https://syzkaller.appspot.com >>> >>> After simply enabling CONFIG_VIDEO_VIMC, CONFIG_VIDEO_VIM2M, >>> CONFIG_VIDEO_VIVID, CONFIG_VIDEO_VICODEC syzbot has found 8 bugs in >>> media subsystem in just 24 hours: >>> >>> KASAN: use-after-free Read in vb2_mmap >>> https://groups.google.com/forum/#!msg/syzkaller-bugs/XGGH69jMWQ0/S8vfxgEmCgAJ >>> >>> KASAN: use-after-free Write in __vb2_cleanup_fileio >>> https://groups.google.com/forum/#!msg/syzkaller-bugs/qKKhsZVPo3o/P6AB2of2CQAJ >>> >>> WARNING in __vb2_queue_cancel >>> https://groups.google.com/forum/#!msg/syzkaller-bugs/S29GU_NtfPY/ZvAz8UDtCQAJ >>> >>> divide error in vivid_vid_cap_s_dv_timings >>> https://groups.google.com/forum/#!msg/syzkaller-bugs/GwF5zGBCfyg/wnuWmW_sCQAJ >> >> Should be fixed by https://patchwork.linuxtv.org/patch/52641/ >> >>> >>> KASAN: use-after-free Read in wake_up_if_idle >>> https://groups.google.com/forum/#!msg/syzkaller-bugs/aBWb_yV1kiI/sWQO63fkCQAJ >>> >>> KASAN: use-after-free Read in __vb2_perform_fileio >>> https://groups.google.com/forum/#!msg/syzkaller-bugs/MdFCZHz0LUQ/qSK_bFbcCQAJ >>> >>> INFO: task hung in vivid_stop_generating_vid_cap >>> https://groups.google.com/forum/#!msg/syzkaller-bugs/F_KFW6PVyTA/wTBeHLfTCQAJ >>> >>> KASAN: null-ptr-deref Write in kthread_stop >>> https://groups.google.com/forum/#!msg/syzkaller-bugs/u0AGnYvSlf4/fUiyfA_TCQAJ >> >> These last two should be fixed by https://patchwork.linuxtv.org/patch/52640/ > > This is great! > This last one happens super frequently, so harms ability to find other bugs. > >> Haven't figured out the others yet (hope to get back to that next week). > > But note that syzbot added few more too! :) As of now (Fri Nov 9 14:47:31 CET 2018) I fixed all media-related syzbot issues with the exception of https://syzkaller.appspot.com/bug?extid=f9966a25169b6d66d61f There is no reproducer for that one and I couldn't figure out how it could happen. I've posted patches for all issues except for two that deal with reproducers using dup2(). I need to think about my fixes a bit more. dup2() is very nasty :-) What would be a good improvement is if you add this to the kernel command options: "vivid.n_devs=2 vivid.multiplanar=1,2" This will create two vivid instances, one using the single planar API and one using the multiplanar API. That will improve the test coverage. I also noticed that you appear to test only video devices. But vivid also creates vbi, radio and swradio devices. It would be nice to have those tested as well. >>> Based on this I think if we put more effort into media fuzzing, it >>> will be able to find dozens more. >> >> Yeah, this is good stuff. Thank you for setting this up. >> >>> >>> syzkaller needs descriptions of kernel interfaces to efficiently cover >>> a subsystem. For example, see: >>> https://github.com/google/syzkaller/blob/master/sys/linux/uinput.txt >>> Hopefully you can read it without much explanation, it basically >>> states that there is that node in /dev and here are ioctls and other >>> syscalls that are relevant for this device and here are types of >>> arguments and layout of involved data structures. >>> >>> Turned we actually have such descriptions for /dev/video* and /dev/v4l-subdev*: >>> https://github.com/google/syzkaller/blob/master/sys/linux/video4linux.txt >>> But we don't have anything for /dev/media*, fuzzer merely knows that >>> it can open the device: >>> https://github.com/google/syzkaller/blob/12b38f22c18c6109a5cc1c0238d015eef121b9b7/sys/linux/sys.txt#L479 >>> and then it will just blindly execute completely random workload on >>> it, e.g. most likely it won't be able to come up with a proper complex >>> structure layout for some ioctls. And I am actually not completely >>> sure about completeness and coverage of video4linux.txt descriptions >>> too as they were contributed by somebody interested in android >>> testing. >> >> A quick look suggests that it is based on the 4.9 videodev2.h, which ain't >> too bad. There are some differences between the 4.20 videodev2.h and the >> 4.9, but not too many. > > > Makes sense because the latest android use 4.9. > Looking at the diff with 4.9 it seems that the APIs were mostly just > extended, so we just need to extend syzkaller descriptions > correspondingly. > >>> I wonder if somebody knowledgeable in /dev/media interface be willing >>> to contribute additional descriptions? >> >> We'll have to wait for 4.20-rc1 to be released since there are important >> additions to the media API. > > Additions are fine. We can extend syzkaller descriptions later too. > But if they are already in, say, linux-next, then syzbot tests it too. > > >> I can probably come up with something, I'm >> just not sure when I get around to it. Ping me in three weeks time if you >> haven't heard from me. >> >>> >>> We also have code coverage reports with the coverage fuzzer achieved >>> so far. Here in the Cover column: >>> https://syzkaller.appspot.com/#managers >>> e.g. this one (but note this is a ~80MB html file): >>> https://storage.googleapis.com/syzkaller/cover/ci-upstream-kasan-gce-root.html >>> This can be used to assess e.g. v4l coverage. But I don't know what's >>> coverable in general from syscalls and what's coverable via the stub >>> drivers in particular. So some expertise from media developers would >>> be helpful too. >> >> The four virtual drivers should give pretty decent coverage of the core >> code. Are you able to test with a 32-bit syzkaller application on a 64-bit >> kernel as well? That way the compat32 code is tested. > > This is coverage from 32-bit instance: > https://storage.googleapis.com/syzkaller/cover/ci-upstream-kasan-gce-386.html > There is some coverage in drivers/media, but I don't know where to > look specifically. E.g. drivers/media/v4l2-core/v4l2-ioctl.c does not > mention "compat". It's in drivers/media/v4l2-core/v4l2-compat-ioctl32.c BTW, is ci-upstream-kasan-gce-386.html a 64 bit kernel with 32 bit apps? Or is it a 32-bit kernel? The latter is not very interesting. > > >>> Do I understand it correctly that when a process opens /dev/video* or >>> /dev/media* it gets a private instance of the device? In particular, >>> if several processes test this in parallel, will they collide? Or they >>> will stress separate objects? >> >> It actually depends on the driver. M2M devices will give you a private >> instance whenever you open it. Others do not, but you can call most ioctls >> in parallel. But after calling REQBUFS or CREATE_BUFS the filehandle that >> called those ioctls becomes owner of the device until the buffers are >> released. So other filehandles cannot do any streaming operations (EBUSY >> will be returned). > > Are the devices created by VIMC, VIM2M, VIVID, VICODEC M2M or not? > I guess VIM2M is M2M, but what about others? vim2m and vicodec are memory-to-memory devices. But vivid and vimc are not. Easy to check: v4l2-ctl -D -d /dev/videoX will report Video Memory-to-Memory capabilities. > > CREATE_BUFS privatization is somewhat unfortunate, but I guess we can > live with it for now. Sorry, I'm not sure what you mean. > I assume that when the process dies it will release everything at > least, because fuzzer will sure not pair create with release all the > time. Correct. Regards, Hans