SV: [linux-dvb] NOVA-TD exeriences?

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> -----Ursprungligt meddelande-----
> Från: linux-media-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:linux-media-
> owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] För Zdenek Kabelac
> Skickat: den 4 november 2009 12:34
> Till: Soeren Moch
> Kopia: linux-media@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Ämne: Re: [linux-dvb] NOVA-TD exeriences?
> 
> 2009/11/4 Soeren Moch <Soeren.Moch@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>:
> > Zdenek Kabelac wrote:
> >> 2009/11/3 Zdenek Kabelac <zdenek.kabelac@xxxxxxxxx>:
> >>> 2009/11/2 Soeren Moch <Soeren.Moch@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>:
> >>>>>> Hi. I would be happy to hear if anyone has tried both the NOVA-TD
> and
> >>>>>> the
> >>>>>> NOVA-T. The NOVA-T has always worked perfectly here but I would
> like
> >>>>>> to
> >>>>>> know
> >>>>>> if the -TD will do the job of two NOVA-T's. And there also seems to
> be
> >>>>>> a
> >>>>>> new
> >>>>>> version out with two small antenna connectors instead of the
> previous
> >>>>>> configuration. Anyone tried it? Does it come with an antenna
> adaptor
> >>>>>> cable?
> >>>>>> http://www.hauppauge.de/de/pics/novatdstick_top.jpg
> >>>>>> Thankful for any info.
> >>>>> Well I've this usb stick with these two small connectors - and it
> runs
> >>>>> just fine.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Though I think there is some problem with suspend/resume recently
> >>>>> (2.6.32-rc5)  and it needs some inspection.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> But it works just fine for dual dvb-t viewing.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> And yes - it contains two small antennas with small connectors and
> >>>>> one adapter for normal antenna - i.e. 1 antenna input goes to 2
> small
> >>>>> antenna connectors.
> >>>> zdenek, your nova-td stick works just fine for dual dvb-t viewing?
> >>>> I always had this problem:
> >>>> When one channel is streaming and the other channel is switched on,
> the
> >>>> stream of the already running channel gets broken.
> >>>> see also:
> >>>> http://www.mail-archive.com/linux-media@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx/msg06376.html
> >>>>
> >>>> Can you please test this case on your nova-td stick?
> >>> I'll recheck in the evening whether there are no regression, but I've
> >>> been able to get 3 dvb-t independent (different mux) TV streams (with
> >>> the usage of the second stick Aver Hybrid Volar HX & proprietary Aver
> >>> driver) with 2.6.29/30 vanilla kernels played at the same time on my
> >>> C2D T61.
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >> Ok - I could confirm, I'm able to play two different muxes at the same
> >> time from this USB stick. And I do not experience any stream damage.
> >> I'm running Fedora Rawhide with vanilla kernel 2.6.32-rc5, kaffeine
> >> 0.8.7 for the first adapter and relatively fresh mplayer compilation
> >> for the second adapter
> >>
> >> Thought there are things to be reported and fixed (some USB regression
> >> I guess) - I'll handle this via lkml.
> >>
> >>
> >> Anyway here is dmesg USB stick identification (labeled  WinTV  Nova-TD)
> >>
> >> USB device found, idVendor=2040, idProduct=5200
> >> USB device strings: Mfr=1, Product=2, SerialNumber=3
> >> Product: NovaT 500Stick
> >>
> >> Regards
> >>
> >> Zdenek
> >>
> >
> > Very strange. Playing of two different muxes is also no problem for me,
> as
> > long
> > as no new stream is started (of course after switching off one of the
> > streams
> > before). In the start moment of the new the stream the already running
> > stream
> > is disturbed and I see a demaged group of pictures in the old stream.
> After
> > these few pictures the stream is running fine again.
> >
> > I cannot imagine that this is a specific problem of my stick, however,
> > thank you for testing!
> 
> 
> Hmm - well I haven't made a close inspection (frame by frame) of every
> frame during the startup of second player.
> Kaffaine seems to have blocked screen refresh because Xorg gets locked
> via starting mplayer.
> So there is definitely frame skipping viewing experience - but that's
> the flaw of Xorg - sound is played just fine.
> 
> If I should check whether there are no TS stream errors only at the
> moment of startup, I'll need to grab both streams and make a better
> analysis.  My current statement was purely based on the fact, that I
> could watch both channels without any picture artefacts or sound
> distorsion - but during startup there is surelly a period, when some
> frames are not even visibile, because kaffeine cannot even refresh
> playing window - but that's another story....
> 
> 
> Zdenek


Hi again. Just got my two new NOVA-TD's and at a first glance they seemed to perform well. Closer inspections however revealed that I see exactly the same issues as Soeren. Watching live TV with VDR on one adaptor while constantly retuning the other one using:
while true;do tzap -x svt1;done
gives a short glitch in the VDR stream on almost every tzap. Another €100 down the drain. I'll probably buy four NOVA-T's instead just like I planned to at first.

/Magnus H


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