Simon Kenyon wrote:
James Peters wrote:
I have followed this one too for a longer time too. In general it
seems like that people were
just fighting the existing and working solution from Marcus. I'm
actually glad that someone is standing
up and trying to make everything easier now. It would be more helpful
if you could
add some helpful information how to get the devices work, rather than
complaining about
someone (especially on personal level as it seems) who supposingly
brought up a competitive solution.
The only issue I see is that this announced work is not opensource,
but I'd also rather leave that
one open to the enduser instead of generally fighting against it..
Some people here have an aggressiv
potential it seems.
the OP wants analog to work on this device
developers (certainly in the USA) have no incentive to work on that as
they have gone digital
i personally cannot help with that device
The problem lies in the easy to use applications and UI being married to
analog. The Linux digital applications are "build it yourself" like ham
radio, while the Windows applications are like CB, plug and works. I
have been trying for months to find any solution for a group of office
workers who are trying to move off Fedora FC4 and FC6 (tvtime and mostly
xawtv) and old Windows to new desktop, preferably FC11. I support their
Linux servers, I am helping find a desktop solution because I believe in
Linux (ie. I'm donating my time and the price of cards I bought for
testing).
Their install "support" guy will plug cards in the box, or USB adaptors,
and install an RPM. He won't install a bunch of RPMs, configure a
database, and play dba to get mythtv working. The users understand
selecting transport like digital-cable-us, analog-braodcast-us, S-video,
and channels. They are not going to look up frequencies, build channel
tables, of type transponder frequencies in kHz into vlc and similar. So
if I could find a commercial solution for them, which they could install
and run with minimal problem, I'd be happy. I like open source, I have
supported open source back to stuff I wrote on MULTICS, but sometimes
"working now" solutions are needed, not "help with development." And
putting a bunch of partial solutions together is fine for Lego or
Erector sets, not so much for office working wanting to install and use
an intuitive solution.
as for Marcus's stuff not being open source - well then what has it
got to do with this mailing list?
anyway, it used to be open source - but he went off in a sulk because
people would not do things "the one true way" as he saw it
Is this list to promote video on Linux, or just some particular
implementation of it? Is there a better list, where all competing
hardware and software can be discussed as solutions without people
getting flamed? I don't want to offend by talking about the wrong
hardware brand, or software which can be used by a ten year old, but
those are the kinds of Q&A I thought I'd find here.
perhaps if you were to reread some of the old email threads you would
realise that you have not quite grasped the whole situation
--
Bill Davidsen <davidsen@xxxxxxx>
Unintended results are the well-earned reward for incompetence.
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