Hi All, This has been discussed before and this is something Brandon and I would like to discuss further at plumbers, so here is a first braindump, note that this braindump is purely mine and not Brandon's in any way. The basic idea is to have some sort of userspace proxy process which allows sharing for example a webcam between 2 devices. For me there are 2 major criteria which need to be matched to be able to do this: 1) No (as in 0) functionality regressions for the single use case, iow when only one app opens the device everything should work as before 2) No significant performance regressions for the single use case. Sure this may be a bit slower, but not much! 2) Will require some trickery with shared memory, etc. But the real hard problem here is 1), so I will purely focus on 1) now. My initial idea to solve 1) is that as soon as an application does anything remotely stream (capture) related even something such as enum_fmt, it becomes the stream owner. The stream owner is allowed to do everything. Any second application which also wants to capture will only be shown the resolution and format currently selected by the stream owner. And here we immediately hit a problem. Imagine the following: 1) The user starts cheese at 640x480 2) The user starts application foo, which only sees 640x480 to and thus starts capturing at 640x480 3) The user changes the resolution in cheese to 320x240 Now we've got a problem, because cheese is allowed to do this, but we need 640x480 for application foo -> fail. And I'm not even talking about possible races when cheese has become the stream owner, but has not yet choosen its format to stream in, etc. So the whole stream owner concept does not work. Instead, what would probably work, is the following: -limit the amount of reported supported formats (enum fmt) to formats which we can create by conversion from native formats -report the full list of supported resolutions to all applications -capture at the highest resolution requested by any of the applications -downsample for applications which want a lower resolution So this is how I suggest to handle this. Regards, Hans -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-media" in the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html