Hmmm, seems my original reply didn't make it into the archive I use, or else the list... No matter... Anyway, sorry for the delay in this reply: On Wed, 1 Jul 2009, Andrej Falout wrote: > Thanks for that Barry, it seems Terratec Cinergy Piranha was indeed > discontinued, as I cant find it in shops anywhere? It's still on the > web site (http://www.terratec.net/en/products/Cinergy_Piranha_1668.html) These days you will probably have the best luck via ebay or similar, though I had seen some shops which appeared to be wanting to clear out their old inventory -- this may depend on where you search, though. > But on Terratec site, there is no mention of Linux drivers for this product. This is -- to me, with background knowledge -- no big surprise, as the support which exists is not so much `drivers' as you might expect to find packaged on a CDROM with loads of other useless drivel, but rather, more of an expert-playground thing where the linux driver is patched to give access to a proprietary API which gives you access to be able to tune into the DAB family of broadcasts. There does not even exist an official application for tuning into a particular broadcast stream, although for someone familiar with DAB broadcasting and the API which Siano has made available, this should be no problem -- one list subscriber had in fact written a somewhat primitive tuning application which I've been using (and many thanks, you know who you are), though it in no way matches the needs of today's GUI-infested youth. You will want to search the linux-dvb mailing lists for posts from one Uri Shkolnik to find pointers to the needed patches that can be used with the Siano devices. But as I say, if you want a polished product that you can plug in and use, that is likely still a way off. What Uri, Siano, and the author of the utility I use to tune, have provided, is a ground-level introduction to the DAB family, that can be scripted for tuning a particular service, but which is unsuitable for channel zapping or other non-dedicated listening. I suspect that what Siano has made available is intended more for suppliers who include their chipsets in integrated handy devices or similar receivers which hide their function from the end-user. Still, if you have a particular service you wish to receive via the DAB family, with minimal interest in zapping to other stations during advertising or tediously-repeated songs, then the ``hacker- oriented'' solution made available to the not-faint-hearted may be a good solution. Obligatory disclaimer: ``It werkz fer me'' so for the masses, fergiddabou'it. > Anyone else know of something equivalent that works on Linux? For laughs, I g00gled again to see what is new in the last months. There appear to be a number of chinese products out there which can tune DBM as well as the DAB family. However, I see no mention of chip manufacturer. Probably the best one can do here is to plug in such a device -- if readily available -- and see if the USB ID corresponds to Siano or some similar manufacturer. I don't know how widespread these devices are, nor do I know if any of today's devices include the chip announced by (I believe) Dibcom a year or more ago. Apart from the handful of Siano devices, I am not aware of any DAB-family devices with any sort of linux support, but I would hope that as this form of broadcasting gains prominence in certain countries, that more devices will make available support for linux. With the current political situation, this appears to focus on chinese and similar manufacturers, even where development is mandated for France, Switzerland, Germany, and other european countries. As far as the V4L or linux-dvb interface is concerned, as the Eureka 147 family of broadcasts is very different from the DVB family, there is not yet any provision for any application to access the former, so for now, you will have to make do with the API offered via Siano for their devices. Whether this will change is up to the manufacturers or distributors of any such devices, or an expert on the Eureka-147 family, and whether such changes can get added into the appropriate Linux API. barry bouwsma -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-media" in the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html