Re: Preliminary results with an SN9C2028 camera

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On Tue, 19 May 2009, Hans de Goede wrote:



On 05/16/2009 12:31 AM, Theodore Kilgore wrote:

I decided recently to work on support for the SN9C2028 dual-mode
cameras, which are supported as still cameras in
libgphoto2/camlibs/sonix. Today, I succeeded in getting three frames out
of one of them, using svv -gr, and I was able to convert two of the
three frames to nice images using the same decompression algorithm which
is used for the cameras in stillcam mode.

There is a lot of work to do yet: support for all appropriate resolution
settings (which are what? I do not yet know), support for all known
cameras for which I can chase down an owner, and incorporation of the
decompression code in libv4l.

However, I thought you might like to know that some success has been
achieved.


Cool!

I recently got a vivitar mini digital camera, usb id 093a 010e,
CD302N according to gphoto, which also is a dual mode camera. It would
be nice to get the webcam mode on this one supported too. Do you know
if there has already been some base work done on that ?


Hans,

Yes, I have been working on that, with some success. Here is an account:

These cameras are MR97310a cameras, specifically the "CIF" variety. They will stream at max resolution 352x288, and then at 320x240, 176x144, and 160x120. I thought at first they are using a different compression algorithm from those which are supported currently in gspca/mr97310.c but I was mistaken about that. In fact, the compression algorithm is the same (so that no code changes in libv4lconvert are required in order to support them) but the initialization sequence is quite a bit different.


I succeeded in getting what seemed like a sufficient number of log files to be able to put together init sequences which work. I have a preliminary version of the code, which works for me with several of the 0x010e cameras that I own. Right now, Thomas Kaiser got one of these cameras recently (there was some discussion about this a couple of weeks ago, here on the list). Someone wrote in to the list and offered one of the cameras for testing. I responded and said it should be sent to one of the three people who are interested: Kyle Guinn, who wrote the mr97310a.c code, Thomas Kaiser, who had some interest in the decompression algorithms, or myself. The camera ended up going to Thomas.

About the same time, I sent my code to Thomas. Basically, what I have done is to write a replacement for mr97310a.c which supports these cameras in addition to the current ones. I hope that we have a report of his testing soon. Since you now have one of these cameras, would you like for me to send a copy to you, too?

I should mention there are several reasons why I did not feel ready to post a formal code patch:

1. The initialization sequences (register writes) seem to be variable from one session to another, and they can be influenced on the Windows streaming program that I am using, by such things as changing brightness, color balance, gamma setting, and so forth, from controls in the Windows program. In other words, it is feasible for various controls to talk to these cameras (presumably all mr97310a cameras). I was hoping that Thomas may know more about such things. Perhaps you do, too?

2. I have one of these "CIF" cameras which will neither stream on Linux nor on Windows. It goes throught all of the motions, and a "stream" starts. But inspection of the contents of the "stream" shows it consists of nothing but sucessive repetitions of the image header. I have tried to chase down comments about this camera (Vivitar Mini Digital Camera) through Google. It seems that many have had this problem; perhaps some of these particular cameras contained buggy hardware.

3. I have another camera (one of the 0x010f "VGA" cameras) which is supposed to stream but refuses to supply data across the isoc endpoint. Probably this is also a hardware problem. It does not work in Windows, either, even though it is supposed to. Perhaps it has merely suffered from old age or ill treatment years ago by its owner (me).


So, as I said, I am perfectly willing to send along my code privately, and you can have some fun, too, and perhaps you can help me figure out some of the remaining issues. This offer, incidentally, is also valid for anyone else on this list who has one of these cameras. Just ask.


Theodore Kilgore
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