Hans Verkuil wrote: > Should we drop support for kernels <2.6.22 in our v4l-dvb repository? > Yes > Optional question: > > Why: > Its causing skilled developers to waste time that would be better served in other areas. Because of that, these skilled volunteers are becoming frustrated and losing their interest in pressing forth. It causes unnecessary complexity. The golden rule is to keep things as simple as possible. It presents a hurdle to attracting new development talent (both corporate and individual). When upstream technical changes (such as i2c subsystem changes) have made backporting downstream a nightmare, it is time to seriously evaluate why you are even bothering doing such. The salient point is that it is absolutely illogical for volunteers to be catering to narrow commercial interests. - Arguments about appeasing the needs of Enterprise distro's are moot. V4L-DVB owes them nothing. Enterprise distro's are specifically that -- an enterprise's work; if they crave support, then they can put Hans (or whomever) on the payroll to backport for their specific needs. - Arguments about appeasing the needs of embedded distros/platforms are moot. V4L-DVB owes them nothing. Let those groups figure out and/or support such device needs on their own; else they can put Hans (or whomever) on the payroll. Those manufactures releasing products within this space will adapt to whatever V4L-DVB does. This space will not suddenly fall apart because of our decision. These entrepreneurs have entered this space specifically to exploit a market opportunity. If they exit, someone else will move in. Its simple free market dynamics. (As it is, they are getting a free lunch ... seriously, I think that when the embedded space looks at how bent over accommodating we currently are, they must be rubbing their hands together and gleefully repeating Flounders statement: Oh boy, is this great! (http://www.acmewebpages.com/midi/great.wav)) The V4L-DVB is lacking in strategic direction. Yesterday was the time to adopt one; so lets pick up one today! I believe the plan to currently backport to 2.6.22 but to bump/narrow the kernel support window to the ideal/easier_to_maintain 2.6.25, once express support from the big 3 desktop distos ends, is the most logical choice and the one which will have the most beneficial impact on the project's future. -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-media" in the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html
