On 2023-08-14 00:27, Alejandro Colomar wrote: > [+= Eric] > > Hi Branden, Eric, > > On 2023-08-14 00:20, G. Branden Robinson wrote: >> At 2023-08-13T23:30:30+0200, Alejandro Colomar wrote: >>> And also, I don't even have the sources, which makes things more >>> complex. >>> >>> I wish that POSIX allowed us to have a copy of the original source >>> code of the POSIX manual in the git repository. With that, I'd find >>> it more interesting to maintain the project again. >>> >>> I'd also like to know what's the original source code of POSIX's >>> manual, because it may very well be roff(7). If that happens to be >>> true, I'd like to have access to that source, instead of the HTML. >> >> My understanding from hermetic comments to the Austin Group mailing list >> over the years is that: >> >> 1. they have used groff for many years (a decade or more); >> 2. they don't use man(7) for their man pages (I was told this directly); >> >> and >> >> 3. they use (a customized version of) mm(7)--or I _think_ I saw someone >> say this, but I have no citation and I am not even sure it was an >> Open Group employee who claimed it. > > I'd love to have the ms(7) source then. That way I would have a reason > to learn ms(7). :) Oops, mm(7). > It would certainly be better than the HTML files. It would be > interesting to adapt the Linux man-pages build system to also support > ms(7) pages. > >> >> We fixed a bunch of bugs in GNU mm for groff 1.23.0.[1] I wonder if >> they will be cross with me about that. Even if they didn't rely on any >> erstwhile misbehavior, the source churned, some internals changed, and >> if they patched the package, I wouldn't count on the patches still >> applying cleanly. >> >>> Would you mind forwarding my rage towards the Open group, which IMO is >>> not so open? >> >> Maybe scrape off the rage first, or you might get a response from Robert >> Elz, who is even more cantankerous and writes at even greater length >> than I do. ;-) > > I promise to scrape the rage if I get a name and an email of who to talk > to. Maybe Eric can help. :) > > Cheers, > Alex > >> >> Some time ago I solicited bug reports against groff from them. So far, >> nothing, unless they filed anonymously. >> >> Regards, >> Branden >> >> [1] https://savannah.gnu.org/bugs/index.php?go_report=Apply&group=groff&func=browse&set=custom&msort=0&report_id=225&advsrch=0&bug_id=&summary=&submitted_by=0&resolution_id=1&assigned_to=0&bug_group_id=0&status_id=3&severity=0&category_id=121&plan_release_id=103&history_search=0&history_field=0&history_event=modified&history_date_dayfd=13&history_date_monthfd=8&history_date_yearfd=2023&chunksz=50&spamscore=5&boxoptionwanted=1#options > -- <http://www.alejandro-colomar.es/> GPG key fingerprint: A9348594CE31283A826FBDD8D57633D441E25BB5
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