[+= Eric] Hi Branden, Eric, On 2023-08-14 00:20, G. Branden Robinson wrote: > At 2023-08-13T23:30:30+0200, Alejandro Colomar wrote: >> And also, I don't even have the sources, which makes things more >> complex. >> >> I wish that POSIX allowed us to have a copy of the original source >> code of the POSIX manual in the git repository. With that, I'd find >> it more interesting to maintain the project again. >> >> I'd also like to know what's the original source code of POSIX's >> manual, because it may very well be roff(7). If that happens to be >> true, I'd like to have access to that source, instead of the HTML. > > My understanding from hermetic comments to the Austin Group mailing list > over the years is that: > > 1. they have used groff for many years (a decade or more); > 2. they don't use man(7) for their man pages (I was told this directly); > > and > > 3. they use (a customized version of) mm(7)--or I _think_ I saw someone > say this, but I have no citation and I am not even sure it was an > Open Group employee who claimed it. I'd love to have the ms(7) source then. That way I would have a reason to learn ms(7). :) It would certainly be better than the HTML files. It would be interesting to adapt the Linux man-pages build system to also support ms(7) pages. > > We fixed a bunch of bugs in GNU mm for groff 1.23.0.[1] I wonder if > they will be cross with me about that. Even if they didn't rely on any > erstwhile misbehavior, the source churned, some internals changed, and > if they patched the package, I wouldn't count on the patches still > applying cleanly. > >> Would you mind forwarding my rage towards the Open group, which IMO is >> not so open? > > Maybe scrape off the rage first, or you might get a response from Robert > Elz, who is even more cantankerous and writes at even greater length > than I do. ;-) I promise to scrape the rage if I get a name and an email of who to talk to. Maybe Eric can help. :) Cheers, Alex > > Some time ago I solicited bug reports against groff from them. So far, > nothing, unless they filed anonymously. > > Regards, > Branden > > [1] https://savannah.gnu.org/bugs/index.php?go_report=Apply&group=groff&func=browse&set=custom&msort=0&report_id=225&advsrch=0&bug_id=&summary=&submitted_by=0&resolution_id=1&assigned_to=0&bug_group_id=0&status_id=3&severity=0&category_id=121&plan_release_id=103&history_search=0&history_field=0&history_event=modified&history_date_dayfd=13&history_date_monthfd=8&history_date_yearfd=2023&chunksz=50&spamscore=5&boxoptionwanted=1#options -- <http://www.alejandro-colomar.es/> GPG key fingerprint: A9348594CE31283A826FBDD8D57633D441E25BB5
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