Hi Tom, On 3/15/23 19:10, Tom Schwindl wrote: > Hi Alex, > >>> I have an archive of many drafts including (so far): >>> >>> 1.5M Sep 10 1998 N0843-C1999-CD-1998-08.pdf >>> 3.4M May 6 2005 N1124-C1999+TC2-CD-2005-05.pdf >>> 3.7M Sep 8 2007 N1256-C1999+TC3-CD-2007-09.pdf >>> 1.7M Apr 12 2011 N1570-C201X-CD-2011-04.pdf >>> 2.3M Oct 9 2017 N2176-C2017-CD-2017-10.pdf >>> 6.7M Jan 24 11:37 N3088-C2023-CD1-2023-01.pdf >>> >>> which can be downloaded as: >>> >>> https://www.open-std.org/jtc1/sc22/wg14/www/docs/n####.pdf >> >> Do you know if we can distribute them? which license applied to them? >> I'm worried that some distros are very strict in what can be distributed >> in a package (e.g., Fedora, Debian (main)). There were issues with >> man-pages-posix in the past. >> >> Should we maybe open a separate project iso-c-drafts that installs >> drafts of the ISO C standards and maybe some scripts that will be useful >> with them? >> > > This is probably a legal gray area and I'd be careful. Yeah, that's what I think. Until I'm 100% sure that it's legal, I won't do it. > ISOs license agreement[0] explicitly states the following: I had some doubts, because since the drafts have always been published in many sites, I don't know if that's legal, or simply ISO doesn't enforce the license over drafts... If someone knows for sure and can clarify, that would help. In fact, maybe I can write to someone in the committee... Thanks, Alex > > > The ISO publication(s) you order is/are copyrighted by the International > > Organization for Standardization. You acknowledge and agree to respect ISO’s > > copyright in our publications by purchasing, downloading, copying or > > otherwise using (an) ISO publication(s). Except as provided for under this > > Licence Agreement, you may not lend, lease, reproduce, distribute or > > otherwise commercially exploit ISO publication(s). In the case of joint > > standards (such as ISO/IEC standards), this clause shall apply to the > > respective joint copyright ownership. > > As we (or a third party) can only produce a plaintext version by downloading the > original PDF draft and converting it, we agree with the above. Thus, we can't > "reproduce" or "distribute" the standard, at least that's my understanding[1]. > I highly doubt that major distibutions would take that risk, nor should we. > > > [0] <https://www.iso.org/terms-conditions-licence-agreement.html#Customer-Licence> > [1] For the record: I'm not a lawyer, this is not legal advice. It's very well > possible that I've overlooked something. > -- <http://www.alejandro-colomar.es/> GPG key fingerprint: A9348594CE31283A826FBDD8D57633D441E25BB5
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