Re: %z and %Z in strftime man page require clarification

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Hi Elliott, Almaz,

On 2/13/23 17:31, enh wrote:
> (given how complex a topic this is -- based on the discussion on the
> tz mailing list -- you might want to send a specific suggestion in the
> form of a patch...)

Thanks, I agree.  This is too complex, and it would be nice to
see a more specific suggestion in the form of a patch.
I CCed Paul, in case he can help.

Cheers,

Alex

> 
> On Mon, Feb 13, 2023 at 1:15 AM Almaz Mingaleev <mingaleev@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>
>> Friendly ping.
>>
>>
>> On Thu, 28 Jul 2022 at 09:16, Almaz Mingaleev <mingaleev@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Michael,
>>> Current strftime specification in C language standard is not accurate.
>>> It tells that tm_isdst is enough to find out time zone's offset. But
>>> that's not true, for example Europe/Lisbon has changed [0] its
>>> standard offset from 00:00 to 01:00 and back to 00:00, so an exact
>>> date is needed to answer that.
>>>
>>> To get correct answer with the current glibc tm struct should either
>>> come from localtime or there should be a mktime call prior to
>>> strftime. You can find a repro example and discussion here [1]. Paul
>>> Eggert has proposed a fix to C standard [2].
>>>
>>> Should man pages reflect that i.e. mention that there should be
>>> localtime/mktime calls for %z and %Z?
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Almaz
>>>
>>> P.S. I am resending the email. My previous attempt was bounced back as
>>> it wasn't TEXT/PLAIN.
>>>
>>> [0] https://github.com/eggert/tz/blob/a249a0c64b2f87a24c7f1aab43056fb597c95b96/europe#L2400
>>> [1] https://mm.icann.org/pipermail/tz/2022-July/031668.html
>>> [2] https://mm.icann.org/pipermail/tz/2022-July/031674.html

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