On 2023-02-08 14:06, Alejandro Colomar wrote:
Hi Jakub!
On 2/8/23 22:00, Jakub Wilk wrote:
* Tom Schwindl <schwindl@xxxxxxxxx>, 2023-02-03 13:27:
I wonder if I'm the only one who thinks that the digit separators look
irritating for both, hex and octal.
Not only you.
I think C23's choice of separator is particularly bad. I found underscores
(used in Perl, Ruby, Python 3, Java, Rust, and likely many others) more
palatable.
IIRC, that was suggested at some point for C23, but don't remember; maybe it's a glitch in my memory (I think it was suggested for separating binary (0b) input). I can't understand how they chose ', especially when in some countries it's used as the decimal point (I don't know if that's official, but I've seen it in hand-written text quite often here in Spain). I agree that it's probably one of the worst separators they could have chosen.
Do you think we should use an underscore in the manual pages? Or what would you do?
See discussion 10 years ago in WG21 C++:
https://open-std.org/jtc1/sc22/wg21/docs/papers/2013/n3499.html
where ambiguity with C++ user-defined literal unit operators and "_" was an
issue, and Objective C/C++ parsing problems with using whitespace.
So in 2020 WG14 C, opting for compatibility with WG21 C++; quoting:
Prior Art: C++, Intel ICC, EDG, Microsoft Visual Studio
in
https://www.open-std.org/JTC1/SC22/WG14/www/docs/n2606.pdf
https://www.open-std.org/JTC1/sc22/wg14/www/docs/n2626.pdf
FYI see comment in:
https://thephd.dev/c-the-improvements-june-september-virtual-c-meeting
"Guess who uses apostrophes for digit separators! The SWISS! And who is in
Switzerland? ISO! I see WG14 is no less corrupt than WG21.
— Miro Knejp" ;^>
We are going to be seeing these used a lot in future from GCC , and as man-pages
are immersed in a sea of C, we might as well start getting used to it, which is
why I made that suggestion.
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Take care. Thanks, Brian Inglis Calgary, Alberta, Canada
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