Re: [PATCH] filesystems.5: rephrase NTFS description to avoid awkward (and wrong) possessive of MS Windows

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On Thu, Dec 17, 2020 at 05:17:51PM +0100, Alejandro Colomar (man-pages) wrote:
> I don't know much about MS,
> but AFAIK, it was MS who designed FAT32.
> 
> I'll quote Wikipedia, although it may be incorrect:
These are good points, though the miss some of the depth of this issue.

The main point I was driving at with this patch was to fix
"Microsoft Window's FAT filesystems" (i.e. FAT filesystems which belong
 to Microsoft Window, which is decidedly wrong).

FAT32 first shipped with MS-DOS 7.1, as part of Windows 95 OSR2,
but it's a (relatively) simple logical extension of the previous FATx
filesystems (16 and 12 as we know and love them today,
 I don't think the PC ever saw 8), hence the "VFAT" driver name ‒
calling FAT-anything a Windows filesystem would be a flat-out lie,
calling it a Microsoft filesystem would be, uh, facetious.

NTFS (as part of Windows NT), on the other hand, is wholly different
WRT the scope and feature-set (it does borrow some layouting from FAT,
 but reading NTFS as FAT doesn't get you very far, or much).

The replacing bit is also questionable, especially in a.d. 2020:
while it is true that you cannot install NT on FAT (after a certain
 point? my memory ain't what it used to be), and must therefore
replace your existing FAT partitions with NTFS during upgrades;
Windows NT 4.0, the last product to be NT-branded came out in 1996,
i.e. you could not install Windows on FAT (and, therefore,
 upgrade it to NTFS, replacing it) during my entire lifetime.

Indeed, in $(date +%Y) we live in a post-NTFS world ‒ putting NTFS in
the same class as FAT beyond "is a filesystem" is a joke, but in my
haste and pursuit of a small diff I didn't consider the above.
Please see below for updated scissor-patch.

Best,
Ahelenia

-- >8 --
Subject: [PATCH] filesystems.5: reword ntfs description, remove FAT
 comparison

Signed-off-by: Ahelenia Ziemiańska <nabijaczleweli@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
---
 man5/filesystems.5 | 5 ++---
 1 file changed, 2 insertions(+), 3 deletions(-)

diff --git a/man5/filesystems.5 b/man5/filesystems.5
index 301c8fb83..3727d7a7a 100644
--- a/man5/filesystems.5
+++ b/man5/filesystems.5
@@ -169,9 +169,8 @@ filesystem was removed from the kernel in 4.17.
 is the network filesystem used to access disks located on remote computers.
 .TP
 .B ntfs
-replaces Microsoft Window's FAT filesystems (VFAT, FAT32).
-It has reliability, performance, and space-utilization enhancements
-plus features like ACLs, journaling, encryption, and so on.
+is the filesystem native to Microsoft Windows NT,
+supporting features like ACLs, journaling, encryption, and so on.
 .TP
 .B proc
 is a pseudo filesystem which is used as an interface to kernel data
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