Hi Brnaden, A ping on the below, in case you have some thoughts. Thanks, Michael On Thu, 1 Oct 2020 at 09:33, Michael Kerrisk (man-pages) <mtk.manpages@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > Hi Branden, > > Sorry -- I think I'm still not getting it. > > On Wed, 30 Sep 2020 at 14:54, G. Branden Robinson > <g.branden.robinson@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > > At 2020-09-30T22:02:43+1000, G. Branden Robinson wrote: > > > [...] you can call .RE [...] as ".RE 2" to say "go back two > > > indentation levels" > > > > Nope, that's wrong. Forget I said that; I think I might now see > > something I can further improve in the documentation. > > > > You can see I'm still bedeviled by relative insets. :-| > > > > I tend to never use the argument to .RE; I just call .RE multiple times > > to balance out my .RS calls, just like parentheses. When I do that, I > > don't get surprised. > > > > > without having to track or remember any indentation measurements. > > > > This part remains true. :) > > Currently, I use the idiom > > .PP > .in +4n > .EX > <code> > .EE > .in > .PP > > or, if we're in indented paragraph territory: > > .IP > .in +4n > .EX > <code> > .EE > .in > .IP > > This is of course hacky, and of course in order to get it right, I > need to know where to use .IP vs .PP. > > I'd happily replace this with the use of ".RS 4/.EX/.EE/.RE", but > what, if anything do I surround it with? And can I do it in a way that > I don't need to care whether I'm currently in an indented zone of > text? > > I mean, if I use: > > .RS > .RS 4 > .PP > .EX > int > main(void) > { > printf("Hello world\n"); > } > .EE > .PP > .RE > .RE > > That produces the desired results (4-space indent) if I am currently > in an indented zone (.TP or .IP). (But it starts to get even more > horribly verbose, in terms of markup, than what I currently use.) > > But if I use that same form in an unindented zone, then <code> is > massively (12 spaces) indented. Instead, seem to need to say just: > > .RS +4 > .PP > .EX > int > main(void) > { > printf("Hello world\n"); > } > .EE > .PP > .RE > > What I'd *ideally* like is a solution for indented code blocks that > (in order or priority): > > 1) is not more verbose than the current solution > 2) uses more idiomatic mark-up than the current solution > 3) uses exactly the same form, regardless of whether I'm currently in > an indented region of text. > > So far, I don't see such a solution. > > Thanks, > > Michael > > -- > Michael Kerrisk > Linux man-pages maintainer; http://www.kernel.org/doc/man-pages/ > Linux/UNIX System Programming Training: http://man7.org/training/ -- Michael Kerrisk Linux man-pages maintainer; http://www.kernel.org/doc/man-pages/ Linux/UNIX System Programming Training: http://man7.org/training/