Thank you for the update. I am sorry you have interpreted my request as a demand. It was not meant or presented as such. Cheers! Rick Stanley On Sun, 2019-09-22 at 23:01 +0200, Michael Kerrisk (man-pages) wrote: > Hello Rick, > > On 9/20/19 4:19 PM, Rick Stanley wrote: > > Greetings! > > > > In the man pages, both in Linux and online in multiple sites, the > > pre > > and post operators are listed as equal precedence. Two different > > web > > sites list them on different levels: > > > > http://man7.org/linux/man-pages/man7/precedence.7.html > > Level 1 > > > > https://linux.die.net/man/7/operator > > Level 2 > > > > Linux `man operator` list them on the second level, with right to > > left > > associativity: > > > > Operator Associativity > > () [] -> . left to right > > ! ~ ++ -- + - (type) * & sizeof right to left > > ... > > > > Section "A.2.1 Expressions" of both the C99 & C11 C Draft > > Standards, > > list them on different levels: > > > > postfix ++ & -- on level 1, with left to right associativity > > > > prefix ++ & -- on level 2, with right to left associativity > > So, Harbison & Steele also seems to agree here. Things changed since > K&R! I've fixed the page: > > Operator Associativity Notes > () [] -> . ++ -- left to right [1] > ! ~ ++ -- + - (type) * & sizeof right to left [2] > [...] > > The following notes provide further information to > the above ta‐ > ble: > > [1] The ++ and -- operators at this precedence level are the > post‐ > fix flavors of the operators. > [2] The ++ and -- operators at this precedence level are > the pre‐ > fix flavors of the operators. > > > Please review this and all the operator precedence and > > associativity in > > the current man page "man operator" against the official C99 & C11 > > Standards documents, plus the current working draft for the next > > version of the Standard. > > You are free to do so. But please don't demand that someone else > does so, even if you say "please". > > Thank you for the bug report! > > Cheers, > > Michael > -- RSI (Rick Stanley, Inc.) (917) 822-7771 www.rsiny.com Computer Systems Consulting Linux & Open Source Specialists