On 04/12/2018 12:18 PM, Jann Horn wrote: > On Thu, Apr 12, 2018 at 8:59 PM, John Hubbard <jhubbard@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >> On 04/12/2018 11:49 AM, Jann Horn wrote: >>> On Thu, Apr 12, 2018 at 8:37 PM, Michael Kerrisk (man-pages) >>> <mtk.manpages@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: >>>> Hi John, >>>> >>>> On 12 April 2018 at 20:33, John Hubbard <jhubbard@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >>>>> On 04/12/2018 08:39 AM, Jann Horn wrote: >>>>>> Clarify that MAP_FIXED is appropriate if the specified address range has >>>>>> been reserved using an existing mapping, but shouldn't be used otherwise. >>>>>> >>>>>> Signed-off-by: Jann Horn <jannh@xxxxxxxxxx> >>>>>> --- >>>>>> man2/mmap.2 | 19 +++++++++++-------- >>>>>> 1 file changed, 11 insertions(+), 8 deletions(-) >>>>>> >>>>>> diff --git a/man2/mmap.2 b/man2/mmap.2 >>> [...] >>>>>> .IP >>>>>> For example, suppose that thread A looks through >>>>>> @@ -284,13 +285,15 @@ and the PAM libraries >>>>>> .UR http://www.linux-pam.org >>>>>> .UE . >>>>>> .IP >>>>>> -Newer kernels >>>>>> -(Linux 4.17 and later) have a >>>>>> +For cases in which the specified memory region has not been reserved using an >>>>>> +existing mapping, newer kernels (Linux 4.17 and later) provide an option >>>>>> .B MAP_FIXED_NOREPLACE >>>>>> -option that avoids the corruption problem; if available, >>>>>> -.B MAP_FIXED_NOREPLACE >>>>>> -should be preferred over >>>>>> -.BR MAP_FIXED . >>>>>> +that should be used instead; older kernels require the caller to use >>>>>> +.I addr >>>>>> +as a hint (without >>>>>> +.BR MAP_FIXED ) >>>>> >>>>> Here, I got lost: the sentence suddenly jumps into explaining non-MAP_FIXED >>>>> behavior, in the MAP_FIXED section. Maybe if you break up the sentence, and >>>>> possibly omit non-MAP_FIXED discussion, it will help. >>>> >>>> Hmmm -- true. That piece could be a little clearer. >>> >>> How about something like this? >>> >>> For cases in which MAP_FIXED can not be used because >>> the specified memory >>> region has not been reserved using an existing mapping, >>> newer kernels >>> (Linux 4.17 and later) provide an option >>> MAP_FIXED_NOREPLACE that >>> should be used instead. Older kernels require the >>> caller to use addr as a hint and take appropriate action if >>> the kernel places the new mapping at a different address. >>> >>> John, Michael, what do you think? >> >> >> I'm still having difficulty with it, because this is in the MAP_FIXED section, >> but I think you're documenting the behavior that you get if you do *not* >> specify MAP_FIXED, right? Also, the hint behavior is true of both older and >> new kernels... > > The manpage patch you and mhocko wrote mentioned MAP_FIXED_NOREPLACE > in the MAP_FIXED section - I was trying to avoid undoing a change you > had just explicitly made. heh. So I've succeeding in getting my own wording removed, then? Progress! :) > >> So, if that's your intent (you want to sort of document by contrast to what >> would happen if this option were not used), then how about something like this: >> >> >> Without the MAP_FIXED option, the kernel would treat addr as a hint, rather >> than a requirement, and the caller would need to take appropriate action >> if the kernel placed the mapping at a different address. (For example, >> munmap and try again.) > > I'd be fine with removing the paragraph. As you rightly pointed out, > it doesn't really describe MAP_FIXED. > OK, that's probably the simplest fix. thanks, -- John Hubbard NVIDIA -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-man" in the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html
