Hi Pierre, Thanks for following up on this. I still think the current man page text is correct. See below. On Wed, Jun 9, 2010 at 12:46 PM, Pierre Habouzit <madcoder@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > On Thu, Jun 03, 2010 at 09:18:22AM +0200, Michael Kerrisk wrote: >> Hi Pierre, >> >> On Wed, Jun 2, 2010 at 11:42 PM, Pierre Habouzit <madcoder@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >> > On Mon, May 24, 2010 at 07:41:49PM +0200, Michael Kerrisk wrote: >> >> Hello Pierre, >> >> >> >> On Tue, Apr 6, 2010 at 11:03 AM, Pierre Habouzit <madcoder@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >> >> > See below a bug reported against the glibc. Since the glibc maintainer >> >> > dodged that one, I assume the bug indeed is in the documentation of >> >> > ftw(3). My manpages are the 3.24-1 Debian package. >> >> >> >> Yes. The man page is clearly incorrect. Thanks for reporting this. >> >> >> >> > IMHO the patch is: >> >> > >> >> > -fpath is the pathname of the entry relative to dirpath. >> >> > +fpath is the pathname of the entry relative to the current working directory. >> >> > >> >> > POSIX is very vague about what "fpath" should be btw. >> >> >> >> (Agreed. It could be more precise.) >> >> >> >> I believe the correct text should be this: >> >> >> >> fpath is the pathname of the entry, and is >> >> expressed either as a pathname relative to the >> >> calling process's current working directory at the >> >> time of the call to ftw(), if dirpath was expressed >> >> as a relative pathname, or as an absolute pathname, >> >> if dirpath was expressed as an absolute pathname. >> >> >> >> I have updated the man page accordingly, but would welcome >> >> review/checking of this text. >> > >> > Afaict, it's not correct: ftw may perform chdir() calls, so the pathname >> > is relative to the current working directory at the time `fn` is called. >> > >> > I'd rather phrase it that way (minus probable english mistakes): >> > >> > fpath is the pathname of the entry, and is either a relative >> > pathname to the current working directory of the application when >> > `fn` is called, or as an absolute pathname. >> >> Thanks for taking a look at this. However, I *think* your analysis is >> wrong, and my proposed changes is right. But, still I'd like some >> further confirmation. Please take a look at the the program below, and >> the output produced when it runs. > > Yeah, that's because you're doing chdir()s during ftw, which is > undefined behaviour as documented in the manpage already IIRC. True. That is documented in the POSIX page, but not currently in man-pages. I've fixed that now. Thanks. > The point is, ftw() /may/ decide to do chdir() by itself sometimes, and > then the path is relative to the current working directory as set by > ftw(). I'm not sure why you think it may decide to do this. If this was unpredictable, then it would create difficulties for the application, as far as I can tell, since it would take quite some effort to correctly interpret the pathname supplied to 'fn'. And POSIX seems fairly clear on the point (at least for nftw()): FTW_CHDIR If set, nftw() shall change the current working directory to each directory as it reports files in that directory. If clear, nftw() shall not change the current working directory. > I'm pretty sure it's what POSIX authorizes ftw() to perform chdirs. See above. > And when I look at ftw.c in the glibc, it's also pretty much what > happens in the case when you set FTW_CHDIR in the flags: ftw() forces a > chdir before the fn() call, and makes the path relative to this cwd. Yes to the first part, but as far as I can see, still no to the last part ("and makes the path relative to this cwd" ). See below. > It happens that the glibc doesn't seem to perform any kind of chdir() in > the other cases (IOW when FTW_CHDIR isn't set), but I'm pretty sure > POSIX allows ftw() to do so. I don't see anywhere that POSIX authorizes that, and it wouldn't seem sensible to do so. See above. Here's a variation on my earlier test program that uses nftw() instead. If "c" is provided in the second command line argument, it uses "FTW_CHDIR". Looking at the results, do you agree with my analysis? $ cat n.c #define _GNU_SOURCE #define _XOPEN_SOURCE 500 #include <ftw.h> #include <stdio.h> #include <stdlib.h> #include <string.h> static int displayFileInfo(const char *fpath, const struct stat *sb, int tflag, struct FTW *ftwbuf) { printf("%-3s %2d %7lld %-40s %d %s\n", (tflag == FTW_D) ? "d" : (tflag == FTW_DNR) ? "dnr" : (tflag == FTW_DP) ? "dp" : (tflag == FTW_F) ? "f" : (tflag == FTW_NS) ? "ns" : (tflag == FTW_SL) ? "sl" : (tflag == FTW_SLN) ? "sln" : "???", ftwbuf->level, (long long) sb->st_size, fpath, ftwbuf->base, fpath + ftwbuf->base); #ifdef DO_CHDIR /* Let's mess with the curent directory during the ftw() call, to see what value is passed to 'pathname' in successive calls to displayFileInfo() */ chdir(".."); #endif system("pwd"); return 0; /* To tell nftw() to continue */ } int main(int argc, char *argv[]) { int flags = 0; if (argc > 2 && strchr(argv[2], 'd') != NULL) flags |= FTW_DEPTH; if (argc > 2 && strchr(argv[2], 'p') != NULL) flags |= FTW_PHYS; if (argc > 2 && strchr(argv[2], 'c') != NULL) flags |= FTW_CHDIR; if (nftw((argc < 2) ? "." : argv[1], displayFileInfo, 20, flags) == -1) { perror("nftw"); exit(EXIT_FAILURE); } exit(EXIT_SUCCESS); } $ cc -o n n.c $ cd dir1 /home/mtk/tlpi/dl/dir1 $ find ../dir2 ../dir2 ../dir2/sub ../dir2/sub/d ../dir2/sub/b ../dir2/sub/c ../dir2/sub/a ../dir2/bbb $ ../n ../dir2 c d 0 4096 ../dir2 3 dir2 /home/mtk/tlpi/dirs_links d 1 4096 ../dir2/sub 8 sub /home/mtk/tlpi/dirs_links/dir2 f 2 0 ../dir2/sub/d 12 d /home/mtk/tlpi/dirs_links/dir2/sub f 2 0 ../dir2/sub/b 12 b /home/mtk/tlpi/dirs_links/dir2/sub f 2 0 ../dir2/sub/c 12 c /home/mtk/tlpi/dirs_links/dir2/sub f 2 0 ../dir2/sub/a 12 a /home/mtk/tlpi/dirs_links/dir2/sub f 1 38 ../dir2/bbb 8 bbb /home/mtk/tlpi/dirs_links/dir2 $ ../n ../dir2 d 0 4096 ../dir2 3 dir2 /home/mtk/tlpi/dl/dir1 d 1 4096 ../dir2/sub 8 sub /home/mtk/tlpi/dl/dir1 f 2 0 ../dir2/sub/d 12 d /home/mtk/tlpi/dl/dir1 f 2 0 ../dir2/sub/b 12 b /home/mtk/tlpi/dl/dir1 f 2 0 ../dir2/sub/c 12 c /home/mtk/tlpi/dl/dir1 f 2 0 ../dir2/sub/a 12 a /home/mtk/tlpi/dl/dir1 f 1 38 ../dir2/bbb 8 bbb /home/mtk/tlpi/dl/dir1 Thanks, Michael -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-man" in the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html