On Sun, Apr 18, 2010 at 10:57, Mihai Paraschivescu <paraschivescu_mihail@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > If I'm not wrong, the exact name of that field in > the msqid_ds structure is msg_qbytes. The > same thing appears also on the online manual > pages, I checked it already. You are correct. The POSIX man pages do indeed list `msg_qbytes' for what seems like the equivalent concept of what the Linux man page lists as `msg_bytes'. The glibc header file <sys/msg.h> (specifically <bits/msq.h>) defines `struct msqid_ds' with not `msg_bytes' but rather `msg_qbytes'; the field `msg_qbytes' can indeed be set with `msgctl()' according to glibc's implementation of that function (see "sysdeps/unix/sysv/linux/i386/msgctl.c" in the glibc source). However, the Linux kernel seems to implement this messaging system on top of a more general IPC subsystem; `MSGMNB' (as referenced in the Linux man page) is used to set the field `msg_ctlmnb' of an object of type `struct ipc_namespace' (http://lxr.linux.no/#linux+v2.6.33/ipc/msg.c#L115): 112 void msg_init_ns(struct ipc_namespace *ns) 113 { 114 ns->msg_ctlmax = MSGMAX; 115 ns->msg_ctlmnb = MSGMNB; /* <------------------- */ 116 117 recompute_msgmni(ns); 118 119 atomic_set(&ns->msg_bytes, 0); /* see below */ 120 atomic_set(&ns->msg_hdrs, 0); 121 ipc_init_ids(&ns->ids[IPC_MSG_IDS]); 122 } When creating a queue, an object of type `struct msg_queue' is created, and it's `q_qbytes' field is set to the associated namespace's `msg_ctlmnb' field (http://lxr.linux.no/#linux+v2.6.33/ipc/msg.c#L215): 181 static int newque(struct ipc_namespace *ns, struct ipc_params *params) 182 { 183 struct msg_queue *msq; ... 215 msq->q_qbytes = ns->msg_ctlmnb; /* <------- Essentially assign MSGMNB */ ... 223 return msq->q_perm.id; 224 } So, it would appear that the Kernel internally uses `q_qbytes' of a `struct msg_queue' for what POSIX (userland side) considers `msg_qbytes' of a `struct msqid_ds'. This is corroborated by how the kernel implements the `msgctl()' system call to set a queue's maximum byte capacity (http://lxr.linux.no/#linux+v2.6.33/ipc/msg.c#L412): 412 static int msgctl_down(struct ipc_namespace *ns, int msqid, int cmd, 413 struct msqid_ds __user *buf, int version) 414 { ... 416 struct msqid64_ds uninitialized_var(msqid64); 417 struct msg_queue *msq; 418 int err; 419 420 if (cmd == IPC_SET) { 421 if (copy_msqid_from_user(&msqid64, buf, version)) /* Copy from userspace */ 422 return -EFAULT; 423 } ... 440 case IPC_SET: 441 if (msqid64.msg_qbytes > ns->msg_ctlmnb && 442 !capable(CAP_SYS_RESOURCE)) { 443 err = -EPERM; 444 goto out_unlock; 445 } 446 447 msq->q_qbytes = msqid64.msg_qbytes; /* <------- Set here with a copy of input */ ... 462 } So, it's pretty clear that the `q_qbytes' of a `struct msg_queue' is indeed the kernelspace version of the POSIX `msg_qbytes' of a `struct msqid_ds'. So, my question is, what is the `msg_bytes' of a `struct ipc_namespace'? Here's how it's used in the kernel's implementation of `msgsnd()' (http://lxr.linux.no/#linux+v2.6.33/ipc/msg.c#L712): 636 long do_msgsnd(int msqid, long mtype, void __user *mtext, 637 size_t msgsz, int msgflg) 638 { 639 struct msg_queue *msq; ... 641 int err; 642 struct ipc_namespace *ns; 643 644 ns = current->nsproxy->ipc_ns; /* from current task */ ... 708 /* noone is waiting for this message, enqueue it */ 709 list_add_tail(&msg->m_list, &msq->q_messages); 710 msq->q_cbytes += msgsz; 711 msq->q_qnum++; 712 atomic_add(msgsz, &ns->msg_bytes); /* <-------------------- */ ... 724 return err; 725 } As you can see, `q_qnum' of a `struct msg_queue' corresponds to the POSIX `msg_qnum' of a `struct msqid_ds'; interestingly, the kernel also keeps track of the number of message bytes currently on the queue by using the field `q_cbytes' of a `struct msg_queue', which corresponds to the "private" field `__msg_cbytes' that glibc defines as an extension to the standard POSIX `struct msqid_ds'. More to the point, it would seem that the `msg_bytes' of a `struct ipc_namespace' is just the more general IPC namespace subsystem's personal copy of that byte count, so that whoever referenced `msg_bytes' in the Linux man page made a mistake in using it. My suggestion is that these sentences from the current msgsnd(2): The queue capacity is defined by the msg_bytes field in the associated data structure for the message queue. During queue creation this field is initialized to MSGMNB bytes, but this limit can be modified using msgctl(2). should remove all references to such implementation details and instead stick to the user interface: The queue capacity can be queried and set using msgctl(2) and the msg_qbytes field of its msqid_ds pointer parameter. Mihai, submit a patch for msgsnd(2); checkout the source as follows: git clone git://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/docs/man-pages/man-pages.git If you don't, I will :-D Sincerely, Michael Witten -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-man" in the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html