Re: Call for nommu LTP maintainer [was: Re: [PATCH 00/36] Remove UCLINUX from LTP]

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On 1/8/24 03:03, Petr Vorel wrote:
Hi Rob, all,

[ Added Niklas Cassel, who is maintainer of qemu_riscv64_nommu_virt_defconfig in
buildroot ]

Hi Niklas!

Buildroot also apparently has an LTP package selectable in menuconfig:

https://github.com/buildroot/buildroot/tree/master/package/ltp-testsuite

But I haven't tried it...

I'm the maintainer of the LTP package in buildroot in my private time.
BTW I spent quite a lot of time fixing LTP (and some other system packages,
e.g. nfs-utils) compilation on some old legacy architectures reported via
http://autobuild.buildroot.net/ I've never used in the reality.
But I certainly don't have time to drive nommu support in my private time.
I don't even have an interest, I don't use any nommu device.

I do, but I've never done much with LTP, and I have my hands full with toybox
and mkroot already.

Therefore nobody who is not involved in nommu will not find a time to support it
in LTP (support does not mean just to add the functionality to the new C API,
but run tests on nommu and fix failing bugs). I suppose nobody is paid to work
on nommu platforms, it would have to be a hobby project, right?

A bunch of people are paid to work on nommu platforms, and I've worked with them
a bunch, but none of them talk to linux-kernel. They find the culture toxic,
insular, and categorically dismissive of their interests.

For example, cortex-m is a large nommu platform on which vendors support Linux
BSPs, but notice how page 8 of
https://www.microsemi.com/document-portal/doc_view/132181-linux-cortex-m-users-manual
points at a cross compiler toolchain from _2010_ and page 4 says they're booting
a 2.6.33 kernel?

I'm a bit weird in that I try to get CURRENT stuff to work on nommu, and a lot
of people have been happy to consume my work, but getting any of them to post
directly to linux-kernel is like pulling teeth.

But as I said, if anybody from nommu decides to maintain it in LTP, I'll try to
support him in my free time (review patches, give advices). And if nobody
stands, this patchset which removes the support in the old API will be merged
after next LTP release (in the end of January).

What does the API migration do? Is there a page on it ala OABI vs EABI in arm or
something?

Rob




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