Re: Sun3 SCSI DMA, was Re: converting the NCR5380 drivers away from scsi_register

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On Mon, 11 Aug 2014, Sam Creasey wrote:

On Fri, Aug 08, 2014 at 08:46:08PM +1200, Michael Schmitz wrote:
IIRC, the DMA controller for the sun3's NCR5380 implementation is 
extremely fussy about what happens in which phase, and it's quick to 
anger if you don't handle everything exactly how it expects.
 

Does the DMA controller also sit in between the bus and the NCR chip, 
as on Falcon? Otherwise, I can't see how it would matter if we just 
bypass it and use PIO instead.

The PIO code from the Atari driver worked just fine for the Mac 5380 
(in fact, the first Mac driver used PIO for everything, including data 
in/out).

PIO definitely works on the Sun3 implementation under the right 
circumstances, I ran it in PIO mode only for a while (much like the Mac 
driver).

I can't remember the bus configuration offhand.

It might not be a big problem: sun3_scsi does a lot of PIO a lot as it is.

For NCR5380_reselect(), atari_NCR5380.c apparently uses only PIO whereas 
sun3_NCR5380.c will use PIO up to a 128 byte size limit (beyond which, 
only DMA is used).

For NCR5380_information_transfer() and PHASE_DATAIN, atari will use PIO 
for transfersize <= 31 bytes whereas sun3 will use PIO for <= 128 bytes. 
However, atari never uses DMA here if cmd->device->borken.

When cmd->device->borken, I assume sun3_NCR5380 inhibits PIO because PIO 
was itself expected to be problematic?

OTOH, if PIO works up to 128 bytes in all cases, why not larger transfers? 

Does the sun3_scsi driver still work after removing #define REAL_DMA?

For NCR5380_information_transfer() and PHASE_CMDOUT, the sun3 version 
applies the same size limit but only does DMA setup if cmd type is 
REQ_TYPE_FS (i.e. filesystem request). This command is then sent by PIO, 
so the DMA setup here seems to assume that the next phase will always be 
PHASE_DATAIN...

This would seem to imply that PIO always works when not REQ_TYPE_FS, such 
that no size limit is applicable...

BTW, testing sun3_dma_setup_done against cmd pointers looks very 
unreliable to me: unique cmds only have unique pointers until freed by the 
scsi mid-layer. After that, the same pointer is likely be re-used.


I definitely remember that the DMA setup logic from the atari version 
did not work at all on sun3.

No surprise there - DMA is implementation specific and needs to be 
handled on a per-case basis.

Perhaps atari_NCR5380 could use some of the sun3_NCR5380 code. E.g. atari 
avoids DMA entirely for reselect, and (only in some phases) when 
cmd->device->borken.

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