On Tue, Jul 18, 2023 at 4:06 PM Jakub Kicinski <kuba@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > On Tue, 18 Jul 2023 13:34:06 -0700 Alexei Starovoitov wrote: > > > Direct packet access via skb->data is there for those who want high > > > speed 🤷️ > > > > skb->data/data_end approach unfortunately doesn't work that well. > > Too much verifier fighting. That's why dynptr was introduced. > > I wish Daniel told us more about the use case. > > > > My worry is that people will think that whether the buffer is needed or > > > not depends on _their program_, rather than on the underlying platform. > > > So if it works in testing without the buffer - the buffer must not be > > > required for their use case. > > > > Are you concerned about bpf progs breaking this way? > > Both, BPF progs breaking and netdev code doing things which don't make > sense. But I won't argue too hard about the former, i.e. the BPF API. > > > I thought you're worried about the driver misusing > > skb_header_pointer() with buffer==NULL. > > > > We can remove !buffer check as in the attached patch, > > but I don't quite see how it would improve driver quality. > > The drivers may not be pretty but they aren't buggy AFAICT. > > > [0001-bpf-net-Introduce-skb_pointer_if_linear.patch application/octet-stream (2873 bytes)] > > Or we can simply pretend we don't have the skb: > > diff --git a/include/linux/skbuff.h b/include/linux/skbuff.h > index 91ed66952580..217447f01d56 100644 > --- a/include/linux/skbuff.h > +++ b/include/linux/skbuff.h > @@ -4023,7 +4023,7 @@ __skb_header_pointer(const struct sk_buff *skb, int offset, int len, > if (likely(hlen - offset >= len)) > return (void *)data + offset; > > - if (!skb || !buffer || unlikely(skb_copy_bits(skb, offset, buffer, len) < 0)) > + if (!skb || unlikely(skb_copy_bits(skb, offset, buffer, len) < 0)) > return NULL; > > return buffer; > diff --git a/kernel/bpf/helpers.c b/kernel/bpf/helpers.c > index 9e80efa59a5d..8bc4622cc1df 100644 > --- a/kernel/bpf/helpers.c > +++ b/kernel/bpf/helpers.c > @@ -2239,7 +2239,13 @@ __bpf_kfunc void *bpf_dynptr_slice(const struct bpf_dynptr_kern *ptr, u32 offset > case BPF_DYNPTR_TYPE_RINGBUF: > return ptr->data + ptr->offset + offset; > case BPF_DYNPTR_TYPE_SKB: > - return skb_header_pointer(ptr->data, ptr->offset + offset, len, buffer__opt); > + { > + const struct sk_buff *skb = ptr->data; > + > + return __skb_header_pointer(NULL, ptr->offset + offset, len, > + skb->data, skb_headlen(skb), > + buffer__opt); > + } Which would encourage bnxt-like hacks. I don't like it tbh. At least skb_pointer_if_linear() has a clear meaning. It's more run-time overhead, since buffer__opt is checked early, but that's ok.