On Thu, 20 Dec 2018, Joao Moreira wrote: > On 12/20/18 12:33 AM, Miroslav Benes wrote: > > On Wed, 19 Dec 2018, Jiri Kosina wrote: > > > >> On Wed, 19 Dec 2018, Josh Poimboeuf wrote: > >> > >>> Also the commit message needs an analysis of the performance impacts. > >> > >> Agreed. Especially as it's expected (*) to be completely in the noise > >> particularly for the kernel, it'd be good to have that documented in the > >> changelog. > >> > >> (*) actually measured already for some subset of the IPA optimizations > > > > Ok, we can do that. I don't expect the results to be different from the > > last measurement as Jiri mentions. The sets of disabled optimizations are > > similar. > > > > I'll add it to v2. > > > > On Wed, 19 Dec 2018, Jiri Kosina wrote: > > > >> On Wed, 19 Dec 2018, Josh Poimboeuf wrote: > >> > >>>>> This option only makes sense for source-based patch generation, so isn't > >>>>> it a bit premature to make this change without proper source-based patch > >>>>> tooling? > >>>> > >>>> The reality is though that before the full-fledged patch tooling exists, > >>>> people are actually already writing livepatches by hand, so this option > >>>> is > >>>> useful for them. > >>> > >>> Fair enough. > > > > Yes, that was the reason I sent it. It would not make sense to wait for > > the tooling in this case, because -flive-patching is useful even now, > > since there is a way to prepare livepatches without any tooling. > > > >>> Though, upstream, almost everybody seems to use kpatch-build, for which > >>> this patch doesn't help. And people will continue to do so until we > >>> have decent source-based tooling. Will the klp-convert patches be > >>> revived soon? > >> > >> Let me add Joao, who's working on that. > >> > >> Joao, I think you had something basically ready for upstream exposure, > >> right? > > > > I think that when Joao posted it a long time ago, the conclusion was that > > it would be better to wait for the source-based tooling and have the > > complete solution. I may misremember though. > > Your memories match mine, Miroslav. > > FTR, we recently integrated klp-convert to SLE. There were some fixes in > comparison with the version which was submitted upstream, thus a v2 of the > patches is necessary. > > > > > If Josh thinks that it would be acceptable to have klp-convert merged even > > without the tooling, I'm all for it. > > > Of course I can work on that and I'll be glad to do so / submit this new > version, if this is now something considered useful. Yes, please. Some context first. We decided to remove the integration into kbuild at SUSE. klp-convert is called from rpm .spec file directly after a livepatch module is compiled. I think we should preserve kbuild process in upstream though. It makes more sense there. Miroslav