On Thu, 20 Dec 2018, Josh Poimboeuf wrote: > On Thu, Dec 20, 2018 at 09:33:05AM +0100, Miroslav Benes wrote: > > > > Though, upstream, almost everybody seems to use kpatch-build, for which > > > > this patch doesn't help. And people will continue to do so until we > > > > have decent source-based tooling. Will the klp-convert patches be > > > > revived soon? > > > > > > Let me add Joao, who's working on that. > > > > > > Joao, I think you had something basically ready for upstream exposure, > > > right? > > > > I think that when Joao posted it a long time ago, the conclusion was that > > it would be better to wait for the source-based tooling and have the > > complete solution. I may misremember though. > > > > If Josh thinks that it would be acceptable to have klp-convert merged even > > without the tooling, I'm all for it. > > > > We're about to start using it at SUSE and staying close to upstream would > > definitely be better. > > A complete toolchain should definitely be the end goal. > > But as a usable first step, only *some* of the tooling is required, > since some of the steps can be done manually, right? > > So starting out, for something usable, I believe the following would be > the bare minimum: > > * -flive-patching > > * The analysis tool which analyzes the -fdump-ipa-clones files > > * klp-convert > > * Documentation describing the end-to-end patch creation process, > including the manual steps and how to use the above tools > > Did I miss anything? > > Then over time we can fill in the gaps (manual steps) with automation. Agreed. Miroslav