On Sun, Apr 16, 2023 at 09:57:10PM -0400, Stefan Berger wrote: > > > On 4/7/23 09:29, Jeff Layton wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > I would ditch the original proposal in favor of this 2-line patch shown here: > > > > > > > > > > > > https://lore.kernel.org/linux-integrity/a95f62ed-8b8a-38e5-e468-ecbde3b221af@xxxxxxxxxxxxx/T/#m3bd047c6e5c8200df1d273c0ad551c645dd43232 > > > > > > We should cool it with the quick hacks to fix things. :) > > > > > > > Yeah. It might fix this specific testcase, but I think the way it uses > > the i_version is "gameable" in other situations. Then again, I don't > > know a lot about IMA in this regard. > > > > When is it expected to remeasure? If it's only expected to remeasure on > > a close(), then that's one thing. That would be a weird design though. > > IMA should remeasure the file when it has visibly changed for another thread or process. > > > > > > -----------------------8<--------------------------- > > > > > > > > [PATCH] IMA: use vfs_getattr_nosec to get the i_version > > > > > > > > IMA currently accesses the i_version out of the inode directly when it > > > > does a measurement. This is fine for most simple filesystems, but can be > > > > problematic with more complex setups (e.g. overlayfs). > > > > > > > > Make IMA instead call vfs_getattr_nosec to get this info. This allows > > > > the filesystem to determine whether and how to report the i_version, and > > > > should allow IMA to work properly with a broader class of filesystems in > > > > the future. > > > > > > > > Reported-by: Stefan Berger <stefanb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > > > Signed-off-by: Jeff Layton <jlayton@xxxxxxxxxx> > > > > --- > > > > > > So, I think we want both; we want the ovl_copyattr() and the > > > vfs_getattr_nosec() change: > > > > > > (1) overlayfs should copy up the inode version in ovl_copyattr(). That > > > is in line what we do with all other inode attributes. IOW, the > > > overlayfs inode's i_version counter should aim to mirror the > > > relevant layer's i_version counter. I wouldn't know why that > > > shouldn't be the case. Asking the other way around there doesn't > > > seem to be any use for overlayfs inodes to have an i_version that > > > isn't just mirroring the relevant layer's i_version. > > > > It's less than ideal to do this IMO, particularly with an IS_I_VERSION > > inode. > > > > You can't just copy up the value from the upper. You'll need to call > > inode_query_iversion(upper_inode), which will flag the upper inode for a > > logged i_version update on the next write. IOW, this could create some > > (probably minor) metadata write amplification in the upper layer inode > > with IS_I_VERSION inodes. > > > > > > > (2) Jeff's changes for ima to make it rely on vfs_getattr_nosec(). > > > Currently, ima assumes that it will get the correct i_version from > > > an inode but that just doesn't hold for stacking filesystem. > > > > > > While (1) would likely just fix the immediate bug (2) is correct and > > > _robust_. If we change how attributes are handled vfs_*() helpers will > > > get updated and ima with it. Poking at raw inodes without using > > > appropriate helpers is much more likely to get ima into trouble. > > > > This will fix it the right way, I think (assuming it actually works), > > and should open the door for IMA to work properly with networked > > filesystems that support i_version as well. > > > > Note that there Stephen is correct that calling getattr is probably > > going to be less efficient here since we're going to end up calling > > generic_fillattr unnecessarily, but I still think it's the right thing > > to do. > > I was wondering whether to use the existing inode_eq_iversion() for all > other filesystems than overlayfs, nfs, and possibly other ones (which ones?) > where we would use the vfs_getattr_nosec() via a case on inode->i_sb->s_magic? > If so, would this function be generic enough to be a public function for libfs.c? That's just an invitation for bugs and maintenance headaches. Just call vfs_getattr_nosec() directly and measure the performance impact before trying to optimize this. If you see performance impact that is worth mentioning then we can explore other options such as allowing ->getattr() to only query for i_version and nothing else.
