On Fri, 2022-01-14 at 22:21 -0800, Eric Biggers wrote:
> On Sat, Jan 15, 2022 at 08:31:01AM +0300, Vitaly Chikunov wrote:
> > Eric,
> >
> > On Sun, Jan 09, 2022 at 01:07:18PM -0800, Eric Biggers wrote:
> > > On Sun, Jan 09, 2022 at 11:45:37PM +0300, Vitaly Chikunov wrote:
> > > > On Wed, Jan 05, 2022 at 03:37:39PM -0800, Eric Biggers wrote:
> > > > > On Fri, Dec 31, 2021 at 10:35:00AM -0500, Mimi Zohar wrote:
> > > > > > On Thu, 2021-12-02 at 14:07 -0800, Eric Biggers wrote:
> > > > > > > On Thu, Dec 02, 2021 at 04:55:06PM -0500, Mimi Zohar wrote:
> > > > > > > > case IMA_VERITY_DIGSIG:
> > > > > > > > - fallthrough;
> > > > > > > > + set_bit(IMA_DIGSIG, &iint->atomic_flags);
> > > > > > > > +
> > > > > > > > + /*
> > > > > > > > + * The IMA signature is based on a hash of IMA_VERITY_DIGSIG
> > > > > > > > + * and the fs-verity file digest, not directly on the
> > > > > > > > + * fs-verity file digest. Both digests should probably be
> > > > > > > > + * included in the IMA measurement list, but for now this
> > > > > > > > + * digest is only used for verifying the IMA signature.
> > > > > > > > + */
> > > > > > > > + verity_digest[0] = IMA_VERITY_DIGSIG;
> > > > > > > > + memcpy(verity_digest + 1, iint->ima_hash->digest,
> > > > > > > > + iint->ima_hash->length);
> > > > > > > > +
> > > > > > > > + hash.hdr.algo = iint->ima_hash->algo;
> > > > > > > > + hash.hdr.length = iint->ima_hash->length;
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > This is still wrong because the bytes being signed don't include the hash
> > > > > > > algorithm. Unless you mean for it to be implicitly always SHA-256? fs-verity
> > > > > > > supports SHA-512 too, and it may support other hash algorithms in the future.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > IMA assumes that the file hash algorithm and the signature algorithm
> > > > > > are the same. If they're not the same, for whatever reason, the
> > > > > > signature verification would simply fail.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Based on the v2 signature header 'type' field, IMA can differentiate
> > > > > > between regular IMA file hash based signatures and fs-verity file
> > > > > > digest based signatures. The digest field (d-ng) in the IMA
> > > > > > meausrement list prefixes the digest with the hash algorithm. I'm
> > > > > > missing the reason for needing to hash fs-verity's file digest with
> > > > > > other metadata, and sign that hash rather than fs-verity's file digest
> > > > > > directly.
> > > > >
> > > > > Because if someone signs a raw hash, then they also implicitly sign the same
> > > > > hash value for all supported hash algorithms that produce the same length hash.
> > > >
> > > > Unless there is broken hash algorithm allowing for preimage attacks this
> > > > is irrelevant. If there is two broken algorithms allowing for collisions,
> > > > colliding hashes could be prepared even if algo id is hashed too.
> > > >
> > >
> > > Only one algorithm needs to be broken. For example, SM3 has the same hash
> > > length as SHA-256. If SM3 support were to be added to fs-verity, and if someone
> > > were to find a way to find an input that has a specific SM3 digest, then they
> > > could also make it match a specific SHA-256 digest. Someone might intend to
> > > sign a SHA-256 digest, but if they are only signing the raw 32 bytes of the
> > > digest, then they would also be signing the corresponding SM3 digest. That's
> > > why the digest that is signed *must* also include the algorithm used in the
> > > digest (not the algorithm(s) used in the signature, which is different).
> >
> > I think it will be beneficial if we pass hash algo id to the
> > akcipher_alg::verify. In fact, ecrdsa should only be used with streebog.
> > And perhaps, sm2 with sm3, pkcs1 with md/sha/sm3, and ecdsa with sha family
> > hashes.
> >
>
> I was going to reply to this thread again, but I got a bit distracted by
> everything else being broken. Yes, the kernel needs to be restricting which
> hash algorithms can be used with each public key algorithm, along the lines of
> what you said. I asked the BoringSSL maintainers for advice, and they confirmed
> that ECDSA just signs/verifies a raw hash, and in fact it *must* be a raw hash
> for it to be secure. This is a design flaw in ECDSA, which was fixed in newer
> algorithms such as EdDSA and SM2 as those have a hash built-in to the signature
> scheme. To mitigate it, the allowed hash algorithms must be restricted; in the
> case of ECDSA, that means to the SHA family (preferably excluding SHA-1).
>
> akcipher_alg::verify doesn't actually know which hash algorithm is used, except
> in the case of rsa-pkcs1pad where it is built into the name of the algorithm.
> So it can't check the hash algorithm. I believe it needs to happen in
> public_key_verify_signature() (and I'm working on a patch for that).
>
> Now, SM2 is different from ECDSA and ECRDSA in that it uses the modern design
> that includes the hash into the signature algorithm. This means that it must be
> used to sign/verify *data*, not a hash. (Well, you can sign/verify a hash, but
> SM2 will hash it again internally.) Currently, public_key_verify_signature()
> allows SM2 to be used to sign/verify a hash, skipping the SM2 internal hash, and
> IMA uses this. This is broken and must be removed, since it isn't actually the
> SM2 algorithm as specified anymore, but rather some homebrew thing with unknown
> security properties. (Well, I'm not confident about SM2, but homebrew is worse.)
>
> Adding fs-verity support to IMA also complicates things, as doing it naively
> would introduce an ambiguity about what is signed. Naively, the *data* that is
> signed (considering the hash as part of the signature algorithm) would be either
> the whole file, in the case of traditional IMA, or the fsverity_descriptor
> struct, in the case of IMA with fs-verity. However, a file could have contents
> which match an fsverity_descriptor struct; that would create an ambiguity.
>
> Assuming that it needs to be allowed that the same key can sign files for both
> traditional and fs-verity hashing, solving this problem will require a second
> hash.
The IMA fs-verity policy rule could require specifying the hash
algorithm. If it would require specifying a particular key as well,
would hashing the hash then not be needed?
> The easiest way to do this would be sign/verify the following struct:
> struct ima_file_id {
> u8 is_fsverity;
> u8 hash_algorithm;
> u8 hash[];
> };
>
The v2 version of this patch introduces the "ima_tbs_hash" structure,
which is more generic, since it uses the IMA xattr record type. Other
than that, I don't see a difference.
> This would be the *data* that is signed/verified -- meaning that it would be
> hashed again as part of the signature algorithm (whether that hash is built-in
> to the signature algorithm, as is the case for modern algorithms, or handled by
> the caller as is the case for legacy algorithms).
There seems to be an inconsistency, here, with what you said above,
"... ECDSA just signs/verifies a raw hash, and in fact it *must* be a
raw hash for it to be secure."
> Note that both traditional
> and fs-verity hashes would need to use this same method for it to be secure; the
> kernel must not accept signatures using the old method at the same time.
The v2 version of this patch set signed the hash of a hash just for fs-
verity signatures. Adding the equivalent support for regular file
hashes will require the version in the IMA signature_v2_hdr to be
incremented. If the version is incremented now, both signatures
versions should then be able to co-exist.
thanks,
Mimi
