Hi David, On Thu, Nov 9, 2023 at 11:04 PM David Revoy <davidrevoy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > Hi Benjamin, > > Thank you it works! 🎉 🎉 🎉 \o/ /o\ \o/ > > > I've pushed an update of the file[0], turns out I made several mistakes. > > As a general rule of thumb, you can follow the MR I've opened at [1], > > click on the pipeline, open the last job ("make release"), then browse > > the artifacts and pull the file from there. > > [...] > > > But just to be sure, you don't have a custom configuration in place > > > for that tablet device? > > [...] > > [0] https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/libevdev/udev-hid-bpf/-/jobs/51399392/artifacts/file/udev-hid-bpf_0.1.0.tar.xz > > [1] https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/libevdev/udev-hid-bpf/-/merge_requests/27 > > I tested the latest artifact on kernel 6.5.8-200.fc38.x86_64 and I also removed my custom configuration at startup (I had not much: an hwdb files for the 24 Pro −mainly for frame buttons− and an xsetwacom bash script for each tablet). > > During the tests, the styluses of both 24 Pro and 16 Pro Gen2 worked perfectly: right-click on upper button out-of-the-box, and the eraser tip of the 16 Pro Gen2 continued to erase as expected. > > I could also target with xsetwacom this 'button 3' of the styluses, and I tested random available shortcuts (but I'll keep default right-click). > > So, good job, and many thanks! > > I want now to write a follow-up after the first blog-post. I see it is a MR [1], maybe it means if it get merged it will be part of libevdev? What would you advice to write for the ones who want to benefit from the fix? This MR will be merged into udev-hid-bpf. It's not "libevdev", the library, per se, but we piggyback on the libevdev project some tools that are more or less official. Right now, udev-hid-bpf is not integrated in any distribution. It's a relatively new project. As for the blog post, feel free to copy/extract/rewrite/link the following. I've tried to address the couple of elements that worried me on your initial blog post (mostly the why), and gave a rough overview of what we have done here: --- Here is a little bit of history of why you were encountering this bug: First, HID is a quite old protocol and has the benefit of being "plug and play" [0] [1]. But plug and play often means for a hardware maker: "let's do trial and error until Windows seems to behave in a correct way". In some other cases, Microsoft puts more restrictions on the HID part (Windows 7 enforced touchscreens to follow a specific pattern, and then Windows 8 did it for touchpads). And they also sometimes provide a test suite that hardware makers have to pass to be "certified". They have to pass the test suite by using the Windows provided generic driver, but Windows also allows them to create a virtual HID device and let a custom driver create that virtual HID device. Which means, we sometimes have devices behaving badly but working perfectly fine on Windows because there are bits missing in the device itself that are fixed by adding an extra software layer. Sigh. But I digress and we need to go back to the pen bits, and AFAIK, there is no such test suite and certification. So basically, hardware makers follow the empiric rule of "if Windows is happy, I am too". To do so, they have to use several events from HID [2] (quoting them): - *Tip Switch* -> A switch located at the tip of a stylus, indicating contact of the stylus with a surface. A pen-based system or system extension would use this switch to enable the input of handwriting or gesture data. The system typically maps Tip Switch to a primary button in a non-pen context. - *In Range* -> Indicates that a transducer is located within the region where digitizing is possible. In Range is a bit quantity - *Barrel Switch* -> A non-tip button located on the barrel of a stylus. Its function is typically mapped to a system secondary button or to a Shift key modifier that changes the Tip Switch function from primary button to secondary button. - *Secondary Barrel Switch* -> A second non-tip button located on the barrel of a stylus further from the tip than the Barrel Switch. Its function is typically mapped to a system secondary or tertiary button. - *Eraser* -> This control is used for erasing objects. Following the metaphor of a pencil, it is typically located opposite the writing end of a stylus. It may be a bit switch or a pressure quantity. - *Invert* -> A bit that indicates that the currently sensed position originates from the end of a stylus opposite the tip. I'm sure that by reading those, everybody should be able to immediately know how to write a Pen HID device, and how the interactions between the events should be. :) (If you are, please contact me ASAP, we have plenty of kernel work to do). So for years the state of pen devices in the Linux kernel was 2 fold: - Wacom shipped an in-kernel driver for their own devices, that they tested and that defined the de-facto "standard" in Linux - the rest was trying to catch up by luck or with the help of projects like DiGiMend, by relying on the generic HID processing of the Linux kernel However, they were no specification for how the events should come: basically in the hid generic input processing each event was mapped to a single input keycode and we had situations were we would get both `BTN_TOOL_PEN` and `BTN_TOOL_ERASER` at the same time (because the `In Range` and the `Eraser` bits were sent by the device at the same time). Which means "hey, the user is interacting with a pen with both the tail and the tip at the same time. Good luck with that!" This led to a complex situation where userspace (libinput mostly) had to do guesses on what is the intent of the user. But the problem is that when you are in userspace, you don't know all of the events of the device at the same time, so it was messy to deal with. Again, Wacom devices were unaffected because they controlled all of the stack: a kernel driver to fix/interpret their devices and a userspace component, xf86-drv-wacom, in the X.org world. Once, as you mentioned in your blog, Microsoft decided to use the second barrel button as the "rubber" mode. The reason was practical: people liked the rubber capability on the styluses, but they wanted to have a separate button on the tail end of the styluses. And I suppose that at the time, given that no other hardware vendors were capable of having no-battery styluses but Wacom (IP protection and capabilities of the hardware IIRC), you still had to put the battery somewhere. And that tail end is convenient for storing such a battery. But that makes it harder to have an eraser end because you need to link both ends of the pen on the same IC, with a battery in the middle that is roughly the same size as your pen's barrel. So having just 2 wires for the battery allows you to have a separate bluetooth button on one end, and the normal stylus on the other end, and keep the width of the pen reasonable. So that choice of using the second button as an eraser was made, and the hardware makers followed: on the XP-Pen Artist Pro 24, the device reports `Tip Switch`, `Barrel Switch`, `Eraser`, `In Range`. Which is "correct" according to the HID Usage Table [2], but which doesn't adhere to the recommendation Microsoft is doing [3]: the device should report an extra `Invert` when the pen is in range with the intent to erase... But you can see that XP-Pen tried to adhere to it in some ways because if you look carefully at the events coming from the device with hid-recorder[4], you'll notice that when you are in range of the sensor and press this button, you'll get an extra "In Range = 0" event to notify that you went out of proximity of the sensor. In kernel 5.18, with commit 87562fcd1342 ("HID: input: remove the need for HID_QUIRK_INVERT"), I tried to remove those multiple tool states to have a straightforward state provided by the kernel that userspace can deal with easily. However, given that there were no regression tests at the time for generic tablets, I wrote some based on Microsoft's recommendation [3] and also tested on a Huion device I have locally. And it was working fine. But I didn't have the devices that were not sending `Invert`, which explained why it was bogus on those devices. This was "fixed" in kernel 6.6 with commit 276e14e6c399 ("HID: input: Support devices sending Eraser without Invert"). Putting quotes around "fixed" because I'm still not happy about this patch. But the point is, from kernel 5.18, the Pen processing in the kernel became a state machine, which means we can not have external actors tampering with it. Why using the ioctl EVIOCSKEYCODE is bad to remap `Eraser` to `BTN_STYLUS2` (through tools like evmap): Having the ability to do something doesn't mean it's the right thing to do. And in that case, this is definitely wrong because you have to call the ioctl after the kernel presents the device to userspace. Which means userspace (and the kernel) already made assumptions on the device itself. There is a high chance libinput (or the Wacom driver) opens the device before evmap, and that it is considering that the device doesn't have `BTN_STYLUS2`. So sending that event would break userspace. And in our case here, the kernel expects some state between the input layer and its internal HID state, and remapping that HID event to something else confuses it. There is another side effect of this: usually end users configuring their devices with such tools do not report back their configuration to the kernel community. In some cases this is valid (this is my preference and my choice), but in other cases it's not (there is a bug here and I'm papering over it). So, what can be done? Basically 2 options: 1. write a kernel patch to fix that problem once and for all 2. use the brand new HID-BPF[5] capability introduced in kernel v6.3 and send me back the BPF program so I can eventually integrate the source in the kernel tree itself and fix that problem once and for all as well For 1., you need: - to be able to dig into the kernel code - to be able to write a patch with the correct kernel standard (with a regression test in `tools/testing/selftests/hid`, please) - to be able to compile your own kernel and test it - to be able to submit your contribution by email (I can suggest using b4 for that, very nice tool) - to be able to take reviews into account, and learn `git rebase -i` to submit v2, v3, and potentially v10 or more in some complex cases - to wait for the patch to be integrated into Linus' tree - to wait for Greg to backport your patch into a stable kernel tree - to wait for your distribution to pick up the stable tree with your patch That's relatively easy, no? :) OTOTH, we have 2.: HID-BPF [5] Very quickly, eBPF [6] is a state machine inside the kernel that allows user space to include a verified code path in the kernel to tweak its behavior. And I adapted this for HID so you can: - change the report descriptor of the device: this disconnects/reconnects the device, meaning the kernel works on the new report descriptor and is consistent with its state - change the event flow of the device: to fix the spurious out-of-prox event for example - more to come What is interesting in BPF (or eBPF), is that nowadays, libbpf implements something named CORE (Compile Once Run Everywhere). Which means that if I compile locally an eBPF program on my machine with my development kernel, as long as I only use functions available from kernel v6.3 for instance, the same compilation output (that changes the event flow of your HID device) will work on any kernel from v6.3 unless there are some later API breakages[7]. Which means, anybody can modify the event flow of an HID device, put the file in the filesystem, and have the device still fixed even if they upgrade their kernel. In the long run, I intend to include those HID-BPF fixes in the kernel tree to centralize them, but also to be able to automatically load them from the kernel when those devices appear. Which means, for the reporter of such a bug you: - can now rely on someone else to write the code, compile it and provide the compilation result [10] - just put that result in the filesystem to have the device tested and fixed Behind the scenes, that other knowledgeable person can take the heavy task of submitting the kernel patch for you, but given that the code has been tested, it's way easier to do (and to eventually re-test). Currently, the "let's integrate that bpf program in the kernel" is not completely done, so we use udev-hid-bpf[8][9] to give it a jump start. And that's exactly what happened in your case David. Which is why I'm so happy (also because I fixed the tools from an author I like and already had the books at home :-P): You want your device to be fixed now, but going through a regular kernel patch means months before it's fixed in your distribution. But with HID-BPF, I fixed it now, and you can safely upgrade the kernel, because even if I do changes in the kernel, the HID-BPF fix will still convert the device into something valid from the HID point of view, and it has a regression test now. When your device will be fixed in the future in the kernel, there is a high chance the `probe` function of the HID-BPF program will say that it's not the correct device, and so the program will not even load and rely on the fixed kernel only. Transparently for you, without you having to change your filesystem. On my side, what's left to be done: - First, I need to fix the tablets not sending the `Invert` usage. Commit 276e14e6c399 ("HID: input: Support devices sending Eraser without Invert") is IMO not good enough, and we might as well simply say that if there is no `Invert` usage, we can convert the `Eraser` usage into `Secondary Barrel Switch` - then I need to fix the XP-Pen Artist Pro 16 gen 2 from the kernel too, by replacing the `Eraser` usage with `Secondary Barrel Switch`. Ideally I would just dump the HID-BPF program in the kernel, but this is not available yet, so I'll probably write a small kernel driver using the same code path as the HID-BPF program. - then Peter and I need to write a more generic HID-BPF program to convert "eraser mode buttons" into `Secondary Barrel Switch`, basically unwinding what the hardware does. This can only happen when libinput will be able to do the opposite transformation so we don't regress. But we can rely on libwacom to tell us if this pen has a tail end eraser or not, and then have userspace choose if they want the button to be a button, or an eraser mode. I think that's pretty much it. Thanks for reading through everything :) Cheers, Benjamin [0] https://who-t.blogspot.com/2018/12/understanding-hid-report-descriptors.html [1] https://docs.kernel.org/hid/hidintro.html [2] https://usb.org/sites/default/files/hut1_4.pdf [3] https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-hardware/design/component-guidelines/windows-pen-states [4] https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/libevdev/hid-tools [5] https://docs.kernel.org/hid/hid-bpf.html [6] https://docs.kernel.org/bpf/index.html [7] but if API breakage happens, all that will happen is that the HID-BPF program will not be loaded. No kernel crash involved. [8] https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/libevdev/udev-hid-bpf [9] https://libevdev.pages.freedesktop.org/udev-hid-bpf/tutorial.html [10] https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/libevdev/udev-hid-bpf/-/merge_requests/27 > > Thanks again, > David > > [1] https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/libevdev/udev-hid-bpf/-/merge_requests/27 >