On Wed, 2009-03-04 at 11:12 +0100, Kay Sievers wrote: > On Wed, Mar 4, 2009 at 02:16, Victor Lowther <victor.lowther@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > On Tue, 2009-03-03 at 19:25 -0500, Jeremy Katz wrote > >> Stealing rules, though, means that they're almost certain to be out of > >> date as soon as they're present. > > Exactly. And they will break horribly next month, when we e.g. switch > from vol_id to blkid. > > > Yep. This is intended to be a quick and dirty hack for those of us who > > prefer not to delve into the nuances of how each distro does things. > > Don't do that. There is no need to know how "distros" work, you only > need to know about Debian. :) > > > Out of date does not mean as much to the initramfs, IMAO -- as long as > > we can find and mount root, it does not matter how out of date the rules > > are. > The current default udev > rules will not even work correctly on the "ancient" udev package > Debian ships today. Ah, I was not aware of that little tidbit of information. inst_rules (in this patch series, at least) will try to grab rules from the host system before using the ones I stole from udev upstream. That did not work on Debian due to their having a different-enough-to-be-infuriating naming scheme, and I did not feel like spending enough time examining their scheme to figure out the "right" rules to grab. > All other distros work together and ship a set of rules which is the > result of a merge of all the distro stuff. They all ship an identical > setup today. There is only one left, which thinks it can do better, > and I would not like to see broken workarounds for everybody in the > dracut repo. It should be a "Debian dracut module to work around their > weird idea of upstream", and not a "pain to maintain default" for all > other users. :) Fair enough. Consider this patch withdrawn. > > Mmmm... sweet scent of politics. I get the feeling that many kilobytes > > have been spent flaming^Wdiscussing this topic. > > Yeah, it seems hard for some kids to share their toys. :) But it's > pretty much over, there is not much to discuss anymore. We all ship > the same stuff, and share the same bugs. If you want "Debian" use > Ubuntu. It's part of the upstream development, ships recent versions > which other stuff can develop against, and can depend on. :) Good to know, but I think I will stick with Fedora for now. It seems like we have enough patches floating around on the mailing list right now to have a good chance at making everything but Debian work without too many distro-specific workarounds (or, at least we will once switch_root is rewritten in C and packaged into util-linux) > Thanks, > Kay -- Victor Lowther RHCE# 805008539634727 LPIC-2# LPI000140019 -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe initramfs" in the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html
