> -----Original Message----- > From: Jonathan Cameron <jic23@xxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Saturday, July 29, 2023 2:55 PM > To: Miclaus, Antoniu <Antoniu.Miclaus@xxxxxxxxxx> > Cc: Krzysztof Kozlowski <krzysztof.kozlowski@xxxxxxxxxx>; > robh+dt@xxxxxxxxxx; krzysztof.kozlowski+dt@xxxxxxxxxx; > conor+dt@xxxxxxxxxx; linux-iio@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx; > devicetree@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx; linux-kernel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: Re: [PATCH] dt-bindings: iio: admv1014: make all regs required > > [External] > > On Thu, 27 Jul 2023 12:02:04 +0000 > "Miclaus, Antoniu" <Antoniu.Miclaus@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Krzysztof Kozlowski <krzysztof.kozlowski@xxxxxxxxxx> > > > Sent: Thursday, July 27, 2023 2:47 PM > > > To: Miclaus, Antoniu <Antoniu.Miclaus@xxxxxxxxxx>; jic23@xxxxxxxxxx; > > > robh+dt@xxxxxxxxxx; krzysztof.kozlowski+dt@xxxxxxxxxx; > > > conor+dt@xxxxxxxxxx; linux-iio@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx; > > > devicetree@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx; linux-kernel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > Subject: Re: [PATCH] dt-bindings: iio: admv1014: make all regs required > > > > > > [External] > > > > > > On 27/07/2023 13:31, Antoniu Miclaus wrote: > > > > Since the regulators are required in the driver implementation, make > > > > them required also in the bindings. > > This bit is probably not strictly true. Try no providing them and you will > probably find stub regulators created on assumption they are fixed regs > that we aren't interested in controlling. > > > > > > > > > > > The true reason should be whether the hardware requires them. > Because if > > > hardware does not need some, the driver should be fixed. > > The datasheet is not very explicit on this topic, but all the specifications of > the > > part are built around these pins being supplied. > > Moreover, the evaluation board or the part comes with all VCC pins > connected > > to fixed supplies. > > Agreed - these should be required in the binding. > Hello Jonathan, Not sure if I fully understand. Should I drop this patch? And also drop the "required" of the regulators in the admv1013 patch? https://patchwork.kernel.org/project/linux-iio/patch/20230727110121.93546-1-antoniu.miclaus@xxxxxxxxxx/ Thanks, > There was an old disagreement on this in which it they were not marked > required in some bindings because the regulator subsystem would assume > they > were fixed supplies that were just missing in the DT and so provides stub > regulators. > My understanding at least has changed and now we mark the required even > if > the driver works fine on some boards without them being supplied. > > Note though that this means the whole of trivial-devices.yaml is garbage > as very few devices actually work without any power :) > > Jonathan > > > > > > Best regards, > > > Krzysztof > >