Re: [PATCH v1] meson saradc: fix clock divider mask length

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Hello Martin

Actually you were right that my patch affects only meson8 family not the all new ones, my bad.
It's clear from the driver code meson_saradc.c and dts files.
I've made an experiment on a113l soc - changingclock_rate inmeson_sar_adc_param and measuring adc channel many times 
and with low clockfrequency (priv->adc_clk) time of measurementis high 
and vice versa. ADC_CLK_DIV field in SAR_ADC_REG3 is always zero. So now 
I need to get s805 (meson8) board for example and made experiment on it. 
Maximum value in 6 bits divider should get bigger measurement time then 
max 5 bits divider.
And thanks for sharing your experience with us :)

Best regards
George


On 5/17/23 22:29, Martin Blumenstingl wrote:
> Hello Vyacheslav, George and Dmitry,
>
> On Wed, May 17, 2023 at 1:37 PM Vyacheslav <adeep@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> Hi, Martin,
>>
>> On 16.05.2023 22:08, Martin Blumenstingl wrote:
>>> Hi George,
>>>
>>> thank you for this patch!
>>>
>>> On Mon, May 15, 2023 at 11:06 PM George Stark <gnstark@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>> From: George Stark <GNStark@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>
>>>> According to datasheets of supported meson SOCs
>>>> length of ADC_CLK_DIV field is 6 bits long
>>> I have a question about this sentence which doesn't affect this patch
>>> - it's only about managing expectations:
>>> Which SoC are you referring to?
>> I checked the 905x, 905x3, a113x datasheets - there is the same register
>> with 6 bits for  ADC_CLK_DIV
> This highlights a common issue I have seen with Amlogic datasheets:
> parts of the datasheet are outdated (or incorrect in one way or
> another).
> For my following explanation I will refer to the public S905X3
> datasheet from [0].
>
> The documentation for SAR_ADC_REG3 on page 1065 states that this
> register contains:
> - bit 30: SAR ADC_CLK_EN: 1 = enable the SAR ADC clock
> - bits 10-15: ADC_CLK_DIV: The ADC clock is derived by dividing the
> 27Mhz crystal by N+1. This value divides the 27Mhz clock to generate
> an ADC clock. A value of 20 for example divides the 27Mhz clock by 21
> to generate an equivalent 1.28Mhz clock
>
> The first problem with this part of the documentation is that there's
> no 27MHz crystal on the Amlogic SoCs listed (S905X, S905X3), only a
> 24MHz one.
> I'm also human, I'm not perfect so typos and mistakes happen. If you
> look at the S805 datasheet (from year 2015) on page 116/117 you'll see
> that even back then it said 27MHz - and even that SoC generation
> (Meson8b) had a 24MHz crystal, not a 27MHz one. In over five years
> that typo has not been fixed.
>
> Let's focus on the S905X3 datasheet again, this time page 101 where it
> has "Figure 7-8 AO Clock Sources".
> Note that the register offsets listed in that section need to be
> multiplied by 4 to get the actual offset in IO memory.
> It describes the "sar_adc_clk" with:
> - first mux at register 0x90 (= 0x24 * 4) bits [10:9] (inputs are: 0 =
> XTAL, 1 = clk81, 2 and 3 are grounded)
> - gate at register 0x90 (= 0x24 * 4) bit 8
> - divider at register 0x90 (= 0x24 * 4) bits [7:0]
> - second mux at register 0x90 (= 0x24 * 4) bit 0 (inputs are: 0 =
> divider from above, 1 = XTAL)
>
> Looking at drivers/clk/meson/g12a-aoclk.c this is what we implement
> (apart form the second mux, which seems to be missing).
> But this now gets confusing: why are there now two dividers and two
> gates (one the SAR ADC registers and another on in the AO clock
> controller registers)?
>
> Looking at my board (G12A X96 Max in this case, but it's uses the same
> clock controller drivers as SM1/S905X3) where &saradc is not enabled
> (meaning: it uses SoC defaults or values initialized by the vendor
> u-boot/TF-A):
> $ grep adc /sys/kernel/debug/clk/clk_summary
>     g12a_ao_saradc_mux                0        0        0    24000000
>        g12a_ao_saradc_div             0        0        0     1142858
>           g12a_ao_saradc_gate         0        0        0     1142858
>                          g12a_ao_saradc       0        0        0   166666664
>                          g12a_adc       0        0        0   166666664
> (output is shortened to make it easier to read)
>
> 1142858Hz is 24MHz divided by 21 (as described in the SAR ADC register
> space - but these values are from the AO clock controller registers).
> So my thought is: if the clock has been programmed in the AO clock
> register space then the divider and gate from the SAR ADC register
> space are not used (anymore) on this SoC generation.
>
> My understanding so far (matching experiments I made long time ago) is:
> - the gate and divider within the SAR ADC register space are only
> relevant for SoCs that predate the GXBB generation
> - SoCs starting from the GXBB SoC generation (that includes GXL, SM1,
> ...) use a dedicated SAR ADC clock provided by some clock controller
> (see the output of $ git grep -E "sar[_]?adc" drivers/clk/meson/ |
> grep name | grep -v _div | grep -v _mux | grep -v _sel)
> -- I think this even applies to the A1 SoC, looking at "clk: meson:
> a1: add Amlogic A1 Peripherals clock controller driver" [2] from
> Dmitry the peripheral clock controller has a "saradc" clock tree (with
> mux, divider, gate)
>
> As result of my understanding meson_saradc.c will only register the
> divider and gate (using meson_sar_adc_clk_init()) if no ADC clock is
> provided via the .dtb.
> On GXBB and newer SoCs meson_sar_adc_clk_init() is not called and the
> divider and gate from the SAR ADC registers are not used.
>
> Amlogic has debug tool IP block in these SoCs called "clock  measurer"
> which can measure various clocks.
> We provide a debugfs interface in
> /sys/kernel/debug/meson-clk-msr/measure_summary
> My suggestion is to play around with the SAR ADC clock (both, the one
> from the peripheral clock controller on your SoC and the one inside
> the SAR ADC registers) and see which clock has an impact on the
> measured clock rate.
>
> PS: I apologize for this long mail. I want to make clear that it's not
> a rant towards you.
> My thought is to share some of the experiences I made in the past.
> I'm always hoping that the quality of the datasheets improves over
> time. In some regards they do (a lot more IPs are documented compared
> to older generations).
> Missing details in the datasheet or incorrect descriptions have cost
> me a lot of time previously.
> My ultimate suggestion is to double check (for example with the clock
> measurer, a scope, ...) what's written in the datasheet so you're not
> wasting time like I did.
>
>
> Best regards,
> Martin
>
>
> [0] https://dn.odroid.com/S905X3/ODROID-C4/Docs/S905X3_Public_Datasheet_Hardkernel.pdf
> [1] https://dn.odroid.com/S805/Datasheet/S805_Datasheet%20V0.8%2020150126.pdf
> [2] https://lore.kernel.org/linux-amlogic/20230517133309.9874-7-ddrokosov@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx/T/#u
>





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